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Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatte Iru Darou ka Gaiden - Sword Oratoria


Alt Names: alt ダンジョンに出会いを求めるのは間違っているだろうか外伝 ソード・ӝalt DanMachi Gaidenalt Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon? Sword Oratoriaalt 소드 오라토리아
Author: OOMORI Fujino
Artist: YAGI Takashi
Genres: Action ActionAdventure AdventureComedy ComedyDrama DramaFantasy FantasyRomance RomanceSeinen Seinen
Type: Manga (Japanese)
Status: Ongoing
Description: This is an adaptation of the Sword Oratoria side story light novels to Dungeon ni Deai o Motomeru no wa Machigatte Iru Darou ka. It covers the story of one of the strongest 1st class adventurer, "Sword Princess" Ais Wallenstein, and her desire to reach even greater heights with her friends in the Loki Familia.

> Spin-off of Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru Darou ka
( http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/dungeon-ni-deai-wo-motomeru-no-wa-machigatteiru-darou-ka-r9803 )
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Ch.33: Departure
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ALL OF PEOPLE who mock me, do you dare to say YES ?

 

YES that there are better weapon than Hestia's Knife Bell can use at the moment he kill Minotaurus. Bell and lvl 1 adventurer just so stupid don't think of using weapon better than Hestia's Knife and to poor to buy weapon better than Hestia's Knife to kill Minotaurus and up lvl 2Even Top Blacksmith or Goddess can craft level 7 weapon don't want to use it themself.

I SURE ALL OF YOU GUYS don't even know if Bell can use weapon better than Hestia's Knife at the moment he kill the Minotaurus because Author don't write about it.

 

I Bet you guys just want to make Bell is a hero type that break record become lvl 2 with CRAP weapon (while he is attually CHEATED ARMED).

Loli tries for A+1 theory, failed.
Tries for heaven splitting Tofu cutting technique, failed.
Now tries for Excalibur theory.

Spoiler

Will it be Light Saber theory next.

 

No need to mock me.

I know how useless try talking with you guys.

Just tell me YES or NO.

 

YES is Bell can use weapon better than Hestia's knife to have super power without level needed when kill Minotaurus. => Top Blacksmith can craft end game weapon and use it themself or any normal people to be as strong as adventurer (who risk their life to reach) level 5, level 6, level 7 use bare-hand. => CHEAT PAY TO WIN type. Bell and newbie people don't use it just because they don't have millions to buy premium weapon.

 

NO is Bell can't use weapon better than Hestia's Knife yet at that moment.

Loli tries for A+1 theory, failed.
Tries for heaven splitting Tofu cutting technique, failed.
Now tries for Excalibur theory.
Spoiler

Will it be Light Saber theory next.

Lol oh no Ais is awakening to BL

I just love the chemistry between bell and lefiya, definitely a plus.

Her expressions are always so funny.

An onion knight may certainly become the strongest at the end point but it doesn't not start out as the strongest
and be injured or even defeated at any point of the journey.
As long the onion knight does not die and does give up, it can still continue on.

That's why the loli doesn't understand the whole point of the knife and can only see the end result yet forgets
This is the story of the weakest becoming the strongest, not a story of how the strong become overpowered.

 

Uhm... Excuse me but

Can Bell EVEN USE EX-CALIBUR or GOD-LIKE OVER-POWER or any 1 Hit KO LVL 7 DUNGEON 100+ MAN FAMILIA RAID BOSS type Knife if he have it ?

 

Are you say any normal people (not even lvl 1 adventurer yet) can use end-game weapon without any lvl stats needed ?

So a normal person use a cheat + god like + over power + end game weapon will have a god-like attack as a lvl 7 adventurer use bare hand ?

 

No need to tell me a long answer, just simple YES or NO.

 

If YES, then I admit I was wrong and I apologize for everything I said before, I never know that you can use END GAME weapon when you just start the game to have Half of Top Player Power.

slight correction. its BEST to be able to fight monsters of similar or slightly higher level than you are and you did put a good point about this series having game-like dungeon system but there's a major difference between this series and a game.

 

Its been established before in the main series that it is possible for much higher level monster to appear at places where low level people are gathering. it clearly has been shown before and it will be shown again later on that Bell does NOT always have the luxury of choosing his enemy. In that situation, Hestia Knife is clearly lacking. In that situation, a weapon with static yet high power is definitely better for short term of use (The minotaur's great sword for one) though it remain just that, short term or even one time use.

Minor detail I feel the need to point out. Slightly higher level should not be fought. A minotaur is only level 2. The highest level adventurer is still only level 7. The correct description would be slightly stronger.

An onion knight may certainly become the strongest at the end point but it doesn't not start out as the strongest
and be injured or even defeated at any point of the journey.
As long the onion knight does not die and does give up, it can still continue on.

That's why the loli doesn't understand the whole point of the knife and can only see the end result yet forgets
This is the story of the weakest becoming the strongest, not a story of how the strong become overpowered.

Chapter 32 make me think Aiz and her parent are from a clan that used to be strong but was destroy by some incident, maybe Zeus or Hera's clan, that is the reason Zeus adopted Bell as his grandson.

Its been established before in the main series that it is possible for much higher level monster to appear at places where low level people are gathering. it clearly has been shown before

 

I mean, it's the very first scene of the series really.

Not only Bell but any member of the Hestia familia(although he is the only member now) and yes that it grows with the user. But the story is RPG based and dungeon system which would suggest that you will need to fight monsters with the same level as you are or a bit higher. Any more than that would mean death so using Hestia knife would be most beneficial because:

1. You won't need to change weapon every time you get stronger since it's ATK scales with the user, thus allowing you to dedicate your income on other items like armor, potions, etc.

2. It is sufficient because the ATK rate is always enough for the monsters you fight since as I said before, the monsters are equal or a bit higher than the user so it will always deliver the desired result

3. It won't break because as long as the user can handle the enemies, then that would mean that the knife can also handle the amount of damage it can have during a battle

4. And yes, an ATK 80+ weapon is really good but you won't be fighting monsters that high yet so having a weapon like that would not be cost-efficient for a starting adventurer like Bell.

slight correction. its BEST to be able to fight monsters of similar or slightly higher level than you are and you did put a good point about this series having game-like dungeon system but there's a major difference between this series and a game.

 

Its been established before in the main series that it is possible for much higher level monster to appear at places where low level people are gathering. it clearly has been shown before and it will be shown again later on that Bell does NOT always have the luxury of choosing his enemy. In that situation, Hestia Knife is clearly lacking. In that situation, a weapon with static yet high power is definitely better for short term of use (The minotaur's great sword for one) though it remain just that, short term or even one time use.

Its difference between type of weapon. remember that Hestia Knife is the type of weapon that works ONLY for Bell and one that grows stronger as Bell gets stronger. That gives 2 point of interest on the knife:

 

1. if anyone else but Bell is to use it, it will be no better than a butter knife

2. It won't be an "Exceptionally impressive" weapon until Bell is stronger. You can think on which one is better between a static Atk +80 weapon and Weapon that gain the same Atk stat as your level with the cap level of 100. Eventually, the latter will surpass the former but it won't be until the user is Level 81 and above.

Not only Bell but any member of the Hestia familia(although he is the only member now) and yes that it grows with the user. But the story is RPG based and dungeon system which would suggest that you will need to fight monsters with the same level as you are or a bit higher. Any more than that would mean death so using Hestia knife would be most beneficial because:

1. You won't need to change weapon every time you get stronger since it's ATK scales with the user, thus allowing you to dedicate your income on other items like armor, potions, etc.

2. It is sufficient because the ATK rate is always enough for the monsters you fight since as I said before, the monsters are equal or a bit higher than the user so it will always deliver the desired result

3. It won't break because as long as the user can handle the enemies, then that would mean that the knife can also handle the amount of damage it can have during a battle

4. And yes, an ATK 80+ weapon is really good but you won't be fighting monsters that high yet so having a weapon like that would not be cost-efficient for a starting adventurer like Bell.

I said too much but in short,

I angry with you guys said that Hestia's Knife is "assumed trash weapon"

while it is one of the best weapon out there.

Its difference between type of weapon. remember that Hestia Knife is the type of weapon that works ONLY for Bell and one that grows stronger as Bell gets stronger. That gives 2 point of interest on the knife:

 

1. if anyone else but Bell is to use it, it will be no better than a butter knife

2. It won't be an "Exceptionally impressive" weapon until Bell is stronger. You can think on which one is better between a static Atk +80 weapon and Weapon that gain the same Atk stat as your level with the cap level of 100. Eventually, the latter will surpass the former but it won't be until the user is Level 81 and above.

This story is pretty good, but I just can't bring myself to like Lefiya as a character. To me she's the weak link of this manga.

Cant say that she is my favorite but a like her, she is funny to watch, but I get what you might dont like in her she ihas atitudes that are a little irritating.

Wait, was that a death flag for Finn?!  There at the beginning?

This story is pretty good, but I just can't bring myself to like Lefiya as a character. To me she's the weak link of this manga.

Because she have almost started on the path of Explosions.

you know what that means....

 

Time to only master 1 skill, strongest skill.

Maybe you already knew.

Anime confirm. April 2017

Why are Lefiya reaction faces the best?

Because she have almost started on the path of Explosions.

I said too much but in short,

I angry with you guys said that Hestia's Knife is "assumed trash weapon"

while it is one of the best weapon out there.

Last I checked, people don't normally need to do a full body pivot to take advantage of angular momentum to cut tofu. Maybe I should have studied in the school of culinary Kendo or something?
 

Or maybe the manga is just taking its cues directly from the LN source material, where the powered-up Mino was actually smart and cunning enough to treat the Hestia Knife with extra caution, and Bell only managed to use it to take off it's arm after deliberately tricking it so he could finally get a single clean hit while the Mino was caught off-guard.
 

You kind of just blew up your own point there.

Yes, Bell can basically use the Hestia Knife as an unbreakable knife to block (well, technically it would be "parrying") attacks... Which means that he has to use another weapon to counter-attack while he's using it to block!

 

If the Tofu (or any soft material like mattress or toilet paper) is even bigger than your body, try anyway if you can cut it with knife in 1 hit without try swing like Bell. Even with Tofu is as big as a head, I need use 2 hands and adding my own weight to cut it in 1 hit.

 

And Thank you for your info ( I really mean it), I don't read the Novel so I don't know it. That really helpful info.

Even a smart and power up Minotaurus is afraid of Hestia's knife, the knife that the other guys assumed as trash weapon.

 

And I said use it to block/parry because It can not be broken, and you can counter-attack after parry with same weapon, not really need use other weapon.

You just justified everything I have said earlier. Bravo!
I see you don't even understand the obvious theme of the weapon at all.

Here, let me help you again. Look at the attachment.

Spoiler

 

yeah, I quote that picture just for your info. your (not too strong, not too weak) comment.

I thought you just read only it and assume it weakest / trash weapon and don't read the cheating part.

That weakest / trash weapon that you guys assumed.

 

 

You don't see the Goddess said that was a cheating weapon ?

And how he can easy cut Minotaurus with assumed trash weapon ? Even other weapon is useless.

That Minotaurus to Bell (because how how level Bell is) is like Udaeus (an dungeon raid boss level) to Ais , just simple kill him enough to impress all gods to level up.

The loli's special. It eats meteor garlic and meteor spice

Spoiler

It only become trash/weak when not in Bell's hand but in Bell's hand it can cut Minotaurus like tofu.
He just never remember use it (in his left hand) to hit the Minotaurus but use the trash knife his right hand and fire spell or steal Minotaurus Trash Greatsword.

Spoiler

Last I checked, people don't normally need to do a full body pivot to take advantage of angular momentum to cut tofu. Maybe I should have studied in the school of culinary Kendo or something?
 

And if you read the main series again, you will see he use a lot of useless attack even though his knife can cut the Minotaurus but he never bother continue using it (because author want an epic battle).

Or maybe the manga is just taking its cues directly from the LN source material, where the powered-up Mino was actually smart and cunning enough to treat the Hestia Knife with extra caution, and Bell only managed to use it to take off it's arm after deliberately tricking it so he could finally get a single clean hit while the Mino was caught off-guard.
 

He can also use it to block, it's unbreakable knife.

You kind of just blew up your own point there.

Yes, Bell can basically use the Hestia Knife as an unbreakable knife to block (well, technically it would be "parrying") attacks... Which means that he has to use another weapon to counter-attack while he's using it to block!


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