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Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru Darou ka


Alt Names: alt ダンジョンに出会いを求めるのは間違っているだろうかalt DanMachialt Is It Too Much to Ask for an Encounter in the Dungeon?alt Is it Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon?
Author: Oomori Fujino
Artist: Kunieda
Genres: Action ActionAdventure AdventureComedy ComedyDrama DramaEcchi EcchiFantasy FantasyHarem HaremRomance RomanceShounen Shounen
Type: Manga (Japanese)
Status: Ongoing
Description: The huge labyrinth city, Orario, is the gateway to the huge underground maze commonly known as the “Dungeon”. Its strange name causes excitement, a place to gain honor, and maybe even a romance with a pretty girl. A place where people hold their breath, hoping to gain all they wish for, a place where a solitary young man meets a little "god".

"Alright, Bell-kun, follow me! It's time for the "Familiar" initiation rite to happen!"
"Yes! I'm going to get stronger!"

The fated meeting of a boy who wants to become an adventurer, and the failed god who doesn't even have a single follower.

This boy's journey as written by the goddess, "Family's Legend" (Familiar's Myth).

adaptation of the light novel written by Oomori Fujino and illustrated by Yasuda Suzuhito

Spin-offs:
> Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatte Iru Darou ka Gaiden - Sword Oratoria
( http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/dungeon-ni-deai-wo-motomeru-no-wa-machigatte-iru-darou-ka-gaiden-sword-oratoria-r12581 )

> Dungeon ni Deai o Motomeru no wa Machigatte Iru Darou ka 4koma - Days of Goddess
( http://bato.to/comic/_/comics/dungeon-ni-deai-o-motomeru-no-wa-machigatte-iru-darou-ka-4koma-days-of-goddess-r13025 )
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You could read Dungeon Meshi for a dungeon with its own ecosystem.

 

Oh boy. I started reading that one a few hours ago, and I definitely don't regret the discovery. Funny, original, interesting.

 

Thank you very much, Alcion!!

A thought just crossed my mind.

 

If we see things from the dungeon monster's perspective, they are just creatures trying to lead their own lives in their own habitat, but their lives and families are ravaged by OP humans decimating them all the time, if it weren't for a high breeding speed everyone would be dead already.

Damned humans.

 

:D

You could read Dungeon Meshi for a dungeon with its own ecosystem.

Cover 10!! light novel

Spoiler

 

Uhh, that sword looks quite similar to Aiz's... I hope I'm overthinking things.

 

 

A thought just crossed my mind.

 

If we see things from the dungeon monster's perspective, they are just creatures trying to lead their own lives in their own habitat, but their lives and families are ravaged by OP humans decimating them all the time, if it weren't for a high breeding speed everyone would be dead already.

Damned humans.

 

:D

This is the reason why most modern "dungeon" series take care to establish some mechanism whereby monsters are automatically generated from the dungeon itself.  It happens here, and also in Death March, Classmate (♀) to Meikyuu no Futekisetsu na Kouryakuhou, to cite a few examples.

 

This is set up especially so that we may not worry about the monsters' ecology or individuality.  They are automatically-generated extensions of the will of some other, larger being, and their destruction in fact maintains the ecology of the overcreature — the labyrinth itself.

 

The analogy here is about a tree and its leaves.  If a leaf falls from a tree or is plucked for some purpose (such as making tea), no one will bat an eye.  Modern Japanese authors are conscientious about setting up such an analogy unless the point is to feel bad for the monsters themselves (Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken is an example).

bleach... the entire manga has devolved into characters pulling new (and often bizzarre) new powers out of their asses.

 

One of these days, both this and the crappy new villain will be literal.

 

And of course, by sheer coincidence, their power just happens to cancel or ignore or be even more ridiculous than the power of the "good guy" they're fighting, and they'll half-kill them. Until it stops being better because reasons, and this time they'll get literally butt-surfed.

Sounds like the worst skill he could have gotten, from a story perspective that is. Powerful burst skills skills with ill-defined limits (but apparently strong enough to take down a floor boss in one hit) don't tend to contribute to fights I find interesting. And it doesn't really fit his speed based style.

It's defined slightly better in the LN

Spoiler

 

On another note, Welf's backstory was poorly done in this chapter, and somewhat inaccurate.

are you more interested in reading something like naruto or bleach then? where every defeat, power-up and victory, everything is just part of a ladder. 
 
encounter enemy > have a hard time > learn new skill or gain random power-up > defeat enemy
then loop back to meeting a stronger foe and repeat the whole process. it was fun reading such stories the first time you read them. then you realize the pattern. that the priority of the author is not about telling a great story but to get serialized as long as possible.

bleach i would say is a poorly done example of an OVERPOWERED character, for exactly the reasons you describe. fights aren't just the focus of the story. they are the ENTIRE story, and the characters are so strong that making believable villians are prohibitively difficult. the entire manga has devolved into characters pulling new (and often bizzarre) new powers out of their asses.
overlord does the suppremely powerful protagonist well. the focus is on character interactions and world-building. ainz rarely enters the fray himself, and when he does it isn't about the fight but the people in it. you already knew ainz would curbstomp clementine. the battle scene was him learning about her.
hero academia is a "weak" (for lack of a better term. deku is not by any means) character story done well. the characters accomplish their goals by being creative, not strong. again, the focus is on interactions of theor personalities rather than fists.
dungeon ni deai hs done it well so far for the same reason. characters are the focus.
tl;dr: too much time spent on fighting is what gets boring. an overpowered protagonist makes fights get boring FASTER.

now he use a sword !?

More like he's the inverse of typical adventurers  - his mainhand is a knife/dagger and his secondary is whatever comes to hand, be it a second dagger, a sword, a longsword, etc.  :D

A thought just crossed my mind.

 

If we see things from the dungeon monster's perspective, they are just creatures trying to lead their own lives in their own habitat, but their lives and families are ravaged by OP humans decimating them all the time, if it weren't for a high breeding speed everyone would be dead already.

Damned humans.

 

:D

You're wrong. Damned humans are undead. Undead are part of the dungeon, and therefore fine. Didn't you meant "stupid, rotten, stinkin', killin', maraudin', filthy, stealin' humans"?

A thought just crossed my mind.

 

If we see things from the dungeon monster's perspective, they are just creatures trying to lead their own lives in their own habitat, but their lives and families are ravaged by OP humans decimating them all the time, if it weren't for a high breeding speed everyone would be dead already.

Damned humans.

 

:D

Shh

Spoiler

Cover 10!! light novel

 

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now he use a sword !?

We should lift magic sword restrictions. Everyone, without reservations, should have the right to wield magic swords in order to protect their family and their property. #LegalizeMagicSwords 

A thought just crossed my mind.
 
If we see things from the dungeon monster's perspective, they are just creatures trying to lead their own lives in their own habitat, but their lives and families are ravaged by OP humans decimating them all the time, if it weren't for a high breeding speed everyone would be dead already.
Damned humans.
 
:D


Well, most dungeon monsters in this story aren't alive either, really. They are only automaton at most.

But there point is clear in any other stories, though.

A thought just crossed my mind.

 

If we see things from the dungeon monster's perspective, they are just creatures trying to lead their own lives in their own habitat, but their lives and families are ravaged by OP humans decimating them all the time, if it weren't for a high breeding speed everyone would be dead already.

Damned humans.

 

:D

that's the point. overpowered characters are boring. nobody wants to read a serious story about a guy facerolling everything. you already know how it's going to end. it's why i always make fun of superman. you can't have a real antagonist when supes is invincible anyway.

are you more interested in reading something like naruto or bleach then? where every defeat, power-up and victory, everything is just part of a ladder. 

 

encounter enemy > have a hard time > learn new skill or gain random power-up > defeat enemy

then loop back to meeting a stronger foe and repeat the whole process. it was fun reading such stories the first time you read them. then you realize the pattern. that the priority of the author is not about telling a great story but to get serialized as long as possible. 

that's the point. overpowered characters are boring. nobody wants to read a serious story about a guy facerolling everything. you already know how it's going to end. it's why i always make fun of superman. you can't have a real antagonist when supes is invincible anyway.

 

Clearly, some people enjoy reading about overpowered characters: please note "Death March Kara Hajimaru Isekai Kyousoukyoku", "Tsuki ga Michibiku Isekai Douchuu", "Koushaku Reijou no Tashinami", "Tenseisha wa Cheat wo Nozomanai", "Re:Monster", "Overlord", "Isekai Tensei Soudouki", "Tensei Shittara Slime Datta Ken", "Isekai Mahou wa Okureteru!", and others that do not come to mind at the moment.

 

They are all about a character from modern or near future Japan who is either summoned or reincarnated into a fantasy world and are leaps and bounds stronger than everybody else in the same world.  To a greater or lesser degree, they are all overpowered.

 

And the fact that there are so many out recently speaks of a boom in this kind of story, which means there is quite a bit of interest in Japan regarding OP characters.

 

Now, you may not like them, and it's your prerogative, but saying "nobody wants to read a serious story about a guy facerolling everything" is demonstrably false: the counter-examples are the works I cited above.

Cover 10!! light novel

 

EwEeKpSw.jpg

Sounds like a limit break
Fight XXXX mobs to charge it up and it strengthens with each mob killed.

that's the point. overpowered characters are boring. nobody wants to read a serious story about a guy facerolling everything. you already know how it's going to end. it's why i always make fun of superman. you can't have a real antagonist when supes is invincible anyway.

True, that OP characters are boring, but not to everyone. To you, maybe they are boring but to others, they're not. But I do respect your opinion about OP characters, but the point of the story is not the ending, but how the protagonist got to the ending. So maybe you do know how it's going to end, but do you know WHAT happened to reach that ending? That is why the MC is an adventurer, to seek adventure. To discover things about their world and to achieve his own goal. That is why I make it a point to learn more about the story, than bother about the MC being OP and boring. And also, Superman is a comic character made during the time of the great depression, when the economy is down, to give people some fun and hope during the hard times. That is why Superman is an OP character, to give entertainment to the masses. And YES, I like Superman and other OP characters that is why I'm replying to your post to give my opinion about what you said.

Why the worst skill? It's name is "Argonaut" from the story of a man wanting to be a hero just like Bell. And it really fits his speed based style because if you play games, most of the speed type jobs/characters do weak or normal damage because they can compensate it with their speed of attack, unlike the slow attack of other jobs/characters, like a mage, that does tons of damage but has a cooldown or a limited number of attacks. So giving him that skill really makes him overpowered.


that's the point. overpowered characters are boring. nobody wants to read a serious story about a guy facerolling everything. you already know how it's going to end.
it's why i always make fun of superman. you can't have a real antagonist when supes is invincible anyway.

Sounds like the worst skill he could have gotten, from a story perspective that is. Powerful burst skills skills with ill-defined limits (but apparently strong enough to take down a floor boss in one hit) don't tend to contribute to fights I find interesting. And it doesn't really fit his speed based style.

Why the worst skill? It's name is "Argonaut" from the story of a man wanting to be a hero just like Bell. And it really fits his speed based style because if you play games, most of the speed type jobs/characters do weak or normal damage because they can compensate it with their speed of attack, unlike the slow attack of other jobs/characters, like a mage, that does tons of damage but has a cooldown or a limited number of attacks. So giving him that skill really makes him overpowered.

Sounds like the worst skill he could have gotten, from a story perspective that is. Powerful burst skills skills with ill-defined limits (but apparently strong enough to take down a floor boss in one hit) don't tend to contribute to fights I find interesting. And it doesn't really fit his speed based style.

 

I disagree; the point of Argonaut is the same as the old "Limit Break" mechanic in FFVII or just about any long-chant magic system.  Start charging up, then hang on to your hat until the meter's charged enough to kill the foe.  Meanwhile, use the speed-based style to keep from being squashed by the attacks from a superior enemy...

And thus Bell became known as One-Blast man.

Sounds like the worst skill he could have gotten, from a story perspective that is. Powerful burst skills skills with ill-defined limits (but apparently strong enough to take down a floor boss in one hit) don't tend to contribute to fights I find interesting. And it doesn't really fit his speed based style.

I find bell cuter than any of the girls What is wrong with me

Absolutely nothing. Bell's a sweetheart (even more so in the anime, which is why it's superior).

hmmm yap...dat butt in last page is a kill


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