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Harapeko no Marie


Alt Names: alt 腹ペコのマリーalt Hungry Marie
Author: TAMURA Ryuuhei
Artist: TAMURA Ryuuhei
Genres: Comedy ComedyGender Bender Gender BenderMystery MysteryRomance RomanceSchool Life School LifeShounen ShounenSlice of Life Slice of LifeSupernatural Supernatural
Type: Manga (Japanese)
Status: Ongoing
Description: A new serialisation from the author of Beelzebub.

Taiga is the heir to a Buddhist temple, while Anna is the poster child of the neighboring church. Normally these two star-crossed lovers would be just that. However, one day, Taiga discovers that Anna's church has a plan to resurrect a certain French aristocrat...
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Chapters

Title Group Contributor Date
Ch.9.5: Jump Giga - Extra
Jaimini's~box~ & Sense-Scans .Chickens 3 weeks ago
Ch.9.5: Bonus du Jump GIGA
Despair-Paradise Arubedo 3 weeks ago
Ch.9: Marie la lycéenne
Despair-Paradise Arubedo 4 weeks ago
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181 Comments

Anybody knows the status of the scanlation?

Exams

Dropped?

Anybody knows the status of the scanlation?

Wait...does that chapter 9.5 confirm that Marie kinda liked/enjoyed seeing Mamoru...? But also got pissed when he 8th grade syndrome-transformed?

 

Also, stop arguing. The mods will shut down this comment section like they did with Tomo-Chan. And the fallout for having no comment section there was brutal. C'mon everyone.

Kimoichi level fail in her eyes.

Middle school debut gone wrong.

"Trying to fit in with the more popular cliques" syndrome

Ah yes, how could I have forgotten the disease that has killed thousands of side characters

Well I heard of eighth grade syndrome, but what the hell did Mamoru go through

"Trying to fit in with the more popular cliques" syndrome

Well I heard of eighth grade syndrome, but what the hell did Mamoru go through

Guys... What the fuck are you doing?

 

Can't you argue about stuff like that in a Forum? The comment section is meant for commenting on the chapters released, not unrelated matters like politics, media, social views, etc'... 

So just stop. Please.

 

Thank you.

so much triggering in the comment section, and this is not even a serious manga damn...

Ranma has been the only successful gender bender manga to date. In fact, it's been so successful that it sold over 50 million copies, over 100 times as much as the next successful manga. It's influence on the genre is undeniable. That's why it's used for comparison and will be until another more successful one comes along (which will take very long time).

 

Yeah, just about every other gender bend work coming out of Japan has kinda flopped really hard. Enough so that it became industry conventional wisdom that the topic is tainted. That's why we've not been seeing too much of it despite there surely being demand for it.  (you wind up in the circular self-fulfilling prophecy of these things not being marketed because they've been marked to not-succeed, thus their non-success being used to justify never investing in enough marketing)

 

Of course, in the last year, Kimi no Na wa ("Your name.") and its insane box office success has taken that idiotic "conventional wisdom", thrown it into the back of a truck and drove it off a cliff. While on fire. And yeah, we're seeing more of the genre coming out from this long winter. :)

Just the opposite, I'm someone who adores gender bender manga/anime especially. In fact, I think gender bending has the potential to change the world. It's actually why I'm a little impatient with it, sometimes!  It's literally my favorite genre, and in fact is kinda what turned me towards a degree of feminism to begin with.  (I'm a guy in RL and I wound up thinking of what life would be like if I became a girl and... just, yeah, made me want modern life to be better for girls and women in both little and big ways.)

 

And yeah, Ranma isn't even close to what I personally think is the gold standard for gender bend.  The example that most comes to mind for me nowadays is Osananajimi wa Onnanoko ni Naare -- also a story with a lot of iffy elements as well (Iori's got the worst friends) but I can't help but adore the presentation. I also liked how Ore Twintail Ni Narimasu did it, where they showed how it can be used in a subtle way without it being the central topic of the story. I'd also really love to see more of Magical Trans, but the scanlator for that one seems to have fallen off the face of the earth. :/    I also am really curious if we'll see more of Ore Ga Yuri.  I also really think I wanna see Oniichan wa Oshimai get scanlated eventually too, just because the premise amuses me.

 

Linking here 'cuz it's not on Batoto or a booru: https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=159912&tag=%E3%81%8A%E5%85%84%E3%81%A1%E3%82%83%E3%82%93%E3%81%AF%E3%81%8A%E3%81%97%E3%81%BE%E3%81%84

 

 

But yeah, it actually really annoys me too when people make comments about contemporary anime/manga using 90's anime as a baseline. As if there's been literally nothing new in 20+ years.

 

Ranma has been the only successful gender bender manga to date. In fact, it's been so successful that it sold over 50 million copies, over 100 times as much as the next successful manga. It's influence on the genre is undeniable. That's why it's used for comparison and will be until another more successful one comes along (which will take very long time).

I would have assumed the main reason was the gender bender aspect, and that you were someone unfamiliar with many other gender bender manga, so you went to the granddaddy of them all. That was just my assumption, though. I don't really feel the two manga are comparable in almost any way outside of that.

 

Ranma tends to be the manga (or anime) people bring up when you mention gender bending in manga (or anime) and they don't know a lot about manga (or anime). In my experience anyway.

 

Just the opposite, I'm someone who adores gender bender manga/anime especially. In fact, I think gender bending has the potential to change the world. It's actually why I'm a little impatient with it, sometimes!  It's literally my favorite genre, and in fact is kinda what turned me towards a degree of feminism to begin with.  (I'm a guy in RL and I wound up thinking of what life would be like if I became a girl and... just, yeah, made me want modern life to be better for girls and women in both little and big ways.)

 

And yeah, Ranma isn't even close to what I personally think is the gold standard for gender bend.  The example that most comes to mind for me nowadays is Osananajimi wa Onnanoko ni Naare -- also a story with a lot of iffy elements as well (Iori's got the worst friends) but I can't help but adore the presentation. I also liked how Ore Twintail Ni Narimasu did it, where they showed how it can be used in a subtle way without it being the central topic of the story. I'd also really love to see more of Magical Trans, but the scanlator for that one seems to have fallen off the face of the earth. :/    I also am really curious if we'll see more of Ore Ga Yuri.  I also really think I wanna see Oniichan wa Oshimai get scanlated eventually too, just because the premise amuses me.

 

Linking here 'cuz it's not on Batoto or a booru: https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=159912&tag=%E3%81%8A%E5%85%84%E3%81%A1%E3%82%83%E3%82%93%E3%81%AF%E3%81%8A%E3%81%97%E3%81%BE%E3%81%84

 

 

But yeah, it actually really annoys me too when people make comments about contemporary anime/manga using 90's anime as a baseline. As if there's been literally nothing new in 20+ years.

The main reason I'd compare it to Harapeko Marie is because this manga has some of the same problems.

I would have assumed the main reason was the gender bender aspect, and that you were someone unfamiliar with many other gender bender manga, so you went to the granddaddy of them all. That was just my assumption, though. I don't really feel the two manga are comparable in almost any way outside of that.

 

Ranma tends to be the manga (or anime) people bring up when you mention gender bending in manga (or anime) and they don't know a lot about manga (or anime). In my experience anyway.

I mostly announced it because I feel like the echo chamber and unchallenged, unquestioned reverberating hatred of everything feminism is harmful to the causes I care about. I'm sick of people spreading hate on it unchallenged. The only way that's going to change is to announce my presence more often and not let silence and shame be assumed by default. It's true that otherwise it's not relevant. Maybe it's stirring the pot a bit? But if my very existence is controversial or flame-baiting, then that says less about me and more about the culture of the internet right now. Either way, I'm sick of just quietly accepting being hated. I'll definitely admit though that feminism has a SERIOUS branding problem right now and there's some really, really terrible people in the community but I digress. Maybe I should've kept my mouth shut until I had a better term for my position, but then I'm back to not wanting to feel silenced. Bleh. Hindsight is 20/20 in any case.

 

I really really don't like Ranma 1/2 though. It's not aged well at all. I mean the story starts with an arranged marriage and while some noise and resistance is made about it, it doesn't change that the story itself pretty much is on board with the arrangement. By that I mean Ranma and Akane are bound by fate less so than any kind of friendship or bonding that actually is shown on the story. In fact, they're extremely hostile to each other in 85% of the scenes in a very seemingly not-cute way. In general, that story doesn't earn any of its payoffs.  And yeah, it's really problematic at times esp. in its portrayal of foreign cultures. (everything to do with Shampoo's side of the cast, for example)

 

The main reason I'd compare it to Harapeko Marie is because this manga has some of the same problems. It doesn't earn any of the payoffs its assuming. A great example is in the most recent chapter where Anna becomes envious of Taiga's friendship with Marie. Wait, what? Since when did Taiga and Anna have a bond close enough that she was suddenly getting jealous? A single awkward confession a love story does not make.  And what in previous chapters shows that Taiga and Marie are forming anything like a friendship? If anything, Marie seems really hostile towards Taiga. They're seemingly acting in those ways because the story says they should be. It doesn't feel real or organic to me, the characters are acting more like plot puppets. Between those writing issues and the gender blending + chinese-style martial arts is why I think Ranma 1/2 . But at least Ranma kind of trades on its colorful, larger than life presentation and over the top comedy.  (which never really worked for me, but some people like it? which is fair enough, I'm actually really happy Nami is seemingly a fan of it. I want more people to like stuff!)

Never thought I would see Trump or feminist pride being mentioned in a comment section of some Gender Bender manga in a serious manner. I thought you weebs were better than this.

Too much nuance in Nya-chan's comment for you, I guess.

 

I agree with her, though. There were some awful opinions and needless proclamations in Midnight Tea's comment. Especially when, like Nya-chan said, we all know how the internet kiddos will immediately react to the mere mention of the word "feminist". I don't know why they said even half of what they did and their opinions on Ranma ½ are atrocious.

 

That said, I always think it's pretty childish when someone mentions where they stand on certain social issues and are immediately stymied, marginalized, and dismissed outright because of it. All because that's what you've been taught to do to people you disagree with. It's silly. Why was Midnight Tea announcing they're a feminist relevant? I've read their comment three times and I'm still not even really sure. But other people should really grow up, too.

Honestly, I pesonally wouldn't begrudge anyone who is a legitimate "weeb". I see no shame in really developing a love of another culture, even if the beginnings of it start in their niche media. Just, y'know, it's only a problem if you begin to think Japan is actually like how it's portrayed in anime/manga.  Then you need a reality check before you embarrass yourself.

Otherwise though, I think "weeb" enthusiasm is a good thing. We ought to all have more. More enthusiasm, love and energy creating and less ironic snarking, eye-rolling and cynically consuming. Since Japan seems to have a better ratio of the former to the latter, at least in their creative media and fandoms, they're clearly doing something right over there.

 

(in fact the snarking, eye-rolling and condescending tone is probably why a lot of feminist media critics are not well liked. Even I'm sick of that shit by now. Sick burns are given way too much value in our culture, bleh.)

 

Getting back on topic, one direction I'd like to see this manga take is more exploring Marie's bizarre friendship with Taiga. Just take one chapter to have the two talk in detail or something, genuinely bond. And no interruptions with stupid action sequences or jokes that aren't funny.

 
I don't want to be called a "weeb" by a chuuni nicknamed "True Goddess Reincarnation" :)

It is a video game.  Educate yourself feminist chan and be real we are all weebs here.  "N...normies read manga as well!" Sure. 

Never thought I would see Trump or feminist pride being mentioned in a comment section of some Gender Bender manga in a serious manner. I thought you weebs were better than this.

 
I don't want to be called a "weeb" by a chuuni nicknamed "True Goddess Reincarnation" :)

Never thought I would see Trump or feminist pride being mentioned in a comment section of some Gender Bender manga in a serious manner. I thought you weebs were better than this.

Nya-chan nailed it.

 

Yeah, that "media feminist" thing sounded pompous af sorry about that.

While "self-identified media feminist" looks like a pompous label and I agree it looks stupid and probably self-serving, I notice a tendency to dismiss any feminist remark as being ridiculous or not worth discussing.

 

At this point, any meaningful exchange about how women, or girls, are portrayed in media in general and manga in particular becomes impossible.

 

If someone tries to advocate about it, they are immediately dismissed as feminazis, morons and loled at. I guess this is the Trump era where you can claim to support women and talking about grabbing them by the pussy at the same time without seeing the problem and anyone calling you out about it is a feminazi. Must be nice to be you.

 

Anyway, this manga, and this comment section, is not really the place to discuss this. The point of the OP was that this manga is not particularly anti-feminist, or pro-feminist. It's a mixed bag of uninteresting tropes the author didn't bother to put in a coherent story.

 

But then, you can actually wonder why the topic of "feminism" showed up in the first place. It's a mystery to me.

Makes a moronic post and then calls everyone who reacts to the idiocy triggered.

 

Whether this is a intentional troll or a moron it is still bait and should be ignored. Let's not shit up this comment section with dumb politics and let this be the last post on the subject.

 

What authority do you have to be giving people orders about what should or shouldn't be the last post on a subject? I'm not particularly inclined to listen to someone who just called me a moron. Your only options in dealing with someone you don't like online are force or diplomacy. Force you have no direct access to.  Thus diplomacy is your only actual option to bring things back on track.

 

Which boggles the mind why you thought it was smart to insult me, since that depletes the one resource you have. While you COULD report this thread to a mod, having thrown an insult in the proceedings probably won't reflect well on you. Thus defaulting you to needing to rely on force. Except no, even if you reported the thread, it wouldn't be YOUR force. It'd be the moderator's. So it makes no sense for you to speak as if you personally could force people to drop this, which you can't. People can and will ignore your demands, especially if you talk to them disrespectfully. Nothing about your approach here works.  :/

 

It wouldn't even be an issue if people weren't reflexively triggered just by the presence of a feminist. Shockingly, to the point some of you think I'm just trolling/baiting -- nope, I really mean it, a feminist walks amongst you. I believe in and take to heart a lot of the tenets of modern feminism. But none of that crap is on topic and I'm not gonna belabor the point except to say I don't got beef with any of you. I'd ideally just like to chill and talk about this interesting, if very flawed manga. But since someone else brought up feminism, albeit in a very negative context, I felt it was okay to talk about my own interest in it and how it shapes my view of Harapeko Marie. 

 

Sorry for derailing the discussion in any case. I at least agree we need to get back on topic.

Nope, not a joke or a bait. Though I'm not surprised some folks are literally getting triggered and fainting on the spot.

Makes a moronic post and then calls everyone who reacts to the idiocy triggered.

 

Whether this is a intentional troll or a moron it is still bait and should be ignored. Let's not shit up this comment section with dumb politics and let this be the last post on the subject.


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