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Kenja no Mago


Alt Names: alt 賢者の孫alt 贤者之孙alt 현자의 손자alt Magi's grandson
Author: Yoshioka Tsuyoshi
Artist: Shunsuke Ogata
Genres: Action ActionAdventure AdventureComedy ComedyDrama DramaEcchi EcchiFantasy FantasyRomance RomanceSchool Life School LifeSeinen SeinenSupernatural SupernaturalTragedy Tragedy
Type: Manga (Japanese)
Status: Ongoing
Description: Thanks to various magic, the human race has been saved from calamity many, many times. Retaining his memories from his previous life, a boy, Shin, was picked up by an old man known to the world as the "Magi."

Shin was brought up by the Magi, who had retired to a secular place, as his own grandson. With the memories of his past life, he absorbed the Magi's craft and grew to be able to develop his own magic.

Then, the grandfather told him he has to become independent when he reaches the age of 15.

"Ah, I forgot to teach him common sense."

The grandson who has grown beyond the level of normal people, lacked common sense; the common sense of the world. So to learn how to socialize, he goes to Earlshide Kingdom City to be admitted to Earlshide Advanced Magic Academy.

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I found the Ch 19 translated into Spanish.
Tell me that the scans have not translated it into English because they do not have time. Please, do not want to speculate JP making mischief again with another of my favorite mangas >.<

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Encontre el cap 19 traducido al español.
Diganme que los scans no lo han traducido al ingles porque no tienen tiempo. Por favor, no quiero especular con JP haciendo de las suyas nuevamente con otro de mis mangas favoritos >.<




I read the chapter but it's only part 1 so the other 2 parts are missing.

...the more I think about it, the more I think this is probably what the author has in mind. And, what's more, Strom will end up getting killed defending Shin from the demons he himself created. (Wouldn't mind betting that the ones he has to defend Shin from are the "loyal" ones who stayed behind.)

What makes you think that ?

There is nothing at all that hint the baby alive : the woman still has a fat belly, nobody left the town (or the house) after attacking the house, the woman wasn't delivering the baby during the attack.

And why would the gramp wander in the neighboor country ? (and why the cart would go to the neighboor country too ?)

The most successful empires absolutely did convert the cultures of the conquered. I'm actually hard-pressed to think of one that didn't. The Ottomans, that's all I can think of.

While the first part is absolutely true... The Ottomans? ...Really? Uh... I mean, generally, a nation which was known for forcibly and violently making people convert to their religion after defeating them strikes me as rather domineering of other cultures and people. The irony on top of this being that their Janissary corp which helped the Ottoman's accomplish this was also comprised entirely of non-Muslim (mostly Christian) slave boys that were forcibly converted to Islam and raised in a brutal environment and made into exemplary soldiers (it was kinda like the French Foreign Legion of its day - only joining was mandatory since you were a slave and all). I mean, even Romans (and the Byzantines, by extension, which was a quasi-continuation of the eastern Roman Empire) did a better job at this in that they actively assimilated other cultures and people into their society (albeit when it suited their purposes).

I found the Ch 19 translated into Spanish.
Tell me that the scans have not translated it into English because they do not have time. Please, do not want to speculate JP making mischief again with another of my favorite mangas >.<

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Encontre el cap 19 traducido al español.
Diganme que los scans no lo han traducido al ingles porque no tienen tiempo. Por favor, no quiero especular con JP haciendo de las suyas nuevamente con otro de mis mangas favoritos >.<

That's a stupid exaggeration -- you don't have to treat them any better than your own country, unless of course your own country is a brutal hellhole. (The most successful empires have been those which did not try to convert the cultures of the conquered.) But the general idea is correct: conquering a place is a picnic compared with holding on to that place.

The most successful empires absolutely did convert the cultures of the conquered. I'm actually hard-pressed to think of one that didn't. The Ottomans, that's all I can think of.

Been thinking this for a while now, but I feel like the former Emperor Herald should be Harold (or less likely, Harald).  But what do I know?

Sure, on one condition: the rest of the world gets to apply that to your country first.

 

Spoiler

except the flashback was only 2 years ago


So? This is a magical universe we're talking about. Time travel could easily be a thing there. (Heck, it could even be caused by Strom trying to change the past, now that he has accomplished his goal he's going to move on to something else.)

...the more I think about it, the more I think this is probably what the author has in mind. And, what's more, Strom will end up getting killed defending Shin from the demons he himself created. (Wouldn't mind betting that the ones he has to defend Shin from are the "loyal" ones who stayed behind.)

except the flashback was only 2 years ago

Then we find out that his wife's belly was already empty and shin is actually his son


...the more I think about it, the more I think this is probably what the author has in mind. And, what's more, Strom will end up getting killed defending Shin from the demons he himself created. (Wouldn't mind betting that the ones he has to defend Shin from are the "loyal" ones who stayed behind.)

Exactly what Nobunaga from Drifters said: When conquering you either burn it until nothing left or pamper and babysit them like a spoiled lady...


That's a stupid exaggeration -- you don't have to treat them any better than your own country, unless of course your own country is a brutal hellhole. (The most successful empires have been those which did not try to convert the cultures of the conquered.) But the general idea is correct: conquering a place is a picnic compared with holding on to that place.

Well, it is troublesome. Everybody in history who has said "I'm going to conquer the world" has failed, and as technology advances the reasons for even wanting to do so get less and less important. In the world shown here, they have magic instead of technology, basically, and so they have a shortcut to that. You don't need to conquer the world because your life won't get any better from doing it -- and if you try you'll be at the top of a pyramid of bureaucracy for the rest of your life, having to rubber-stamp all the decisions and settle all the arguments, while being the default target for every bit of unrest everywhere. And if you let other people take care of any of that so you can have time off, chances are good that that's where where the history books will say either "was overthrown by his subordinates" or "lost huge chunks of territory by ignoring obvious signs of unrest". Conquering the world is an incredibly stupid move.

Exactly what Nobunaga from Drifters said: When conquering you either burn it until nothing left or pamper and babysit them like a spoiled lady...

I mean, he's already won. Now he's just sitting around bored, being all "well, it wasn't a pleasant goal, but I've accomplished it."
 
Which was actually my favorite part of the chapter. "Conquer the world? Why would I want that. Sounds troublesome."


Well, it is troublesome. Everybody in history who has said "I'm going to conquer the world" has failed, and as technology advances the reasons for even wanting to do so get less and less important. In the world shown here, they have magic instead of technology, basically, and so they have a shortcut to that. You don't need to conquer the world because your life won't get any better from doing it -- and if you try you'll be at the top of a pyramid of bureaucracy for the rest of your life, having to rubber-stamp all the decisions and settle all the arguments, while being the default target for every bit of unrest everywhere. And if you let other people take care of any of that so you can have time off, chances are good that that's where where the history books will say either "was overthrown by his subordinates" or "lost huge chunks of territory by ignoring obvious signs of unrest". Conquering the world is an incredibly stupid move.

and here i thought Oliver is Shin's real family...

I was hoping another "I'm your father" scene, LOL

I don't like it when an author reveals the motivation or backstory for the main villain; it's always so underwhelming and for me kills a lot of intrigue about a character in their position if I know everything about him.

Wow... Edgy.

They were stupid, but what did you expect?  The setting is for ILLITERATE, UNEDUCATED, PEASANTS.  The IQ of a mob is pretty much the inverse of the size of the mob.  And they didn't start with a high mark to begin with. 

 

People from our position of education, hindsight (and especially a READER'S overview) aren't really in a position to blame somebody for making a bad call like that.  If it was that easy to judge whats right and wrong judicial courts wouldn't have a backlog.

I doubt even 5% of them were able to read. That's the level of medieval folks - only rich people or those who needed reading/writing for work (like merchants or scribes) knew how to do it.

 

So yeah, none of them bothered to learn how to be skeptical or doubtful. Who needs that when their entire life revolves around growing food? ;p

....Not....good. The flashback was amazing. Engaging, heart breaking, very effective. The problem is...its SO much more effective than ANYTHING we've seen till this point. The protagonists, in comparison, are empty, vapid, and one dimensional. After this chapter....I WANT the demons to win. Unless this chapter was meant to change protagonists, they've done the rest of their characters a disservice. 

 

I mean, he's already won. Now he's just sitting around bored, being all "well, it wasn't a pleasant goal, but I've accomplished it."

 

Which was actually my favorite part of the chapter. "Conquer the world? Why would I want that. Sounds troublesome."

Then we find out that his wife's belly was already empty and shin is actually his son

This is stupid. Even if i was to assume the peasants were dumb, and assume they were ignorant about things going on in the capital, to just be like, "Oh, you need to take our women along for questioning? And they need to still be tied up and gagged? OK!" This is just some dumb shit right here. I can't fathom a person who supposedly cares about another just being like whatever to a situation where that other person is tied up and gagged. They should have demanded the guards at least unbind and ungag them. And when the guards refused, they should have been like, oh something is up. This was lazy writing right there on the authors part. OK, rant over.

 

They were stupid, but what did you expect?  The setting is for ILLITERATE, UNEDUCATED, PEASANTS.  The IQ of a mob is pretty much the inverse of the size of the mob.  And they didn't start with a high mark to begin with. 

 

People from our position of education, hindsight (and especially a READER'S overview) aren't really in a position to blame somebody for making a bad call like that.  If it was that easy to judge whats right and wrong judicial courts wouldn't have a backlog.

Shin might figure out how to cure a demon/devil. who knows. 

So Strom was a good guy all along.   :Thumbs Up:
 
He's right.  Those stupid commoners, the corrupt nobles, a country that shitty should just be flushed down the toilet and more people allowed to walk in and take over.  Honestly this is my belief for all foreign policy.  There are some good people in a country so we shouldn't indiscriminately kill them all?  Fuck that.  Take everything down to zero and hope the newly budding life will be better.  Trying to reform countries has poor efficiency that takes several generations to show any notable results and the people who were fucking everything up get off easy in 99% of every instance that approach has been tried.


Sure, on one condition: the rest of the world gets to apply that to your country first.

as a 12 y.o maybe i will like the heroes, but im an old man go Storm fuk that empire hard so they can fuk himself later

This is stupid. Even if i was to assume the peasants were dumb, and assume they were ignorant about things going on in the capital, to just be like, "Oh, you need to take our women along for questioning? And they need to still be tied up and gagged? OK!" This is just some dumb shit right here. I can't fathom a person who supposedly cares about another just being like whatever to a situation where that other person is tied up and gagged. They should have demanded the guards at least unbind and ungag them. And when the guards refused, they should have been like, oh something is up. This was lazy writing right there on the authors part. OK, rant over.

 

You won't believe how it reflects the society of today. I should be thankful that if this ever happens to you, you would make a sound judgment. But more often than not, here in our country, where the poor is uneducated, they trust someone with power, not questioning, just blindly following wherever the flow goes.

Strom is still a d*ck, and he was pretty naive (like every f*cking good/nice noble ever). Still, those nobles he killed deserved to die.

hmm strom and shin is quite the same shin is also pretty naive its just that he is the heroes grandson so he have it nice unlike strom.


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