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Mahoutsukai no Yome


Alt Names: alt Die Braut des Magiersalt 魔法使いの嫁alt Kadim Magus'un Gelinialt La Femme du magealt La sposa dello stregonealt Mahou Tsukai no Yomealt Oblubienica czarnoksiężnikaalt The Ancient Magus' Bridealt Невеста Чародеяalt ארוסת המגוס העתיק
Author: Yamazaki Kore
Artist: Yamazaki Kore
Genres: Adventure AdventureDrama DramaFantasy FantasyShounen ShounenSupernatural Supernatural
Type: Manga (Japanese)
Status: Ongoing
Description: Hatori Chise is only 16, but she has lost far more than most. With neither family nor hope, it seems all doors are closed to her. But a chance encounter begins to turn the rusted wheels of fate. In her darkest hour, a mysterious magus appears before Chise, offering a chance she couldn't turn down. This magus who seems closer to demon than human, will he bring her the light she desperately seeks, or drown her in ever deeper shadows?
Nominated for the 8th Manga Taisho Award.
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You know... I just love how Chise's got black market connections like that.

After she made the auctioner win 2 million pounds by putting herself on sale, I'd actually be outraged if the ungrateful bastard didn't keep in touch.

You know... I just love how Chise's got black market connections like that.

They're stepping into the grim world of magic now.

Location of magical auctions identified as... Claridge's Hotel. Or rather, in the secret crypt that lies beneath it. (Do hotels have crypts? Basement, then.) These guys must be pretty well connected...

Hmmm . . . normally (I don't know about certain manga) alchemy has fairly specific associations in terms of what kind of thing it is, both in what you do to accomplish it which is mixing and purifying substances somewhat chemistry-style and in its symbolism, which again is about purification and transformation of essences both of materials and of the alchemist's own spirit (one thing I've found interesting is the idea that the whole base metals into gold schtick was at the same time about refining the alchemist from a baser to a purer self); mercury, quicksilver, symbolic of transformation, associated with Mercury/Hermes, was often central.  Anyway, if you get "magical" effects from alchemy it would normally be from some kind of elixir or substance, like a potion or the "universal solvent" or such.  I don't see the "wizards" here as being like that; they seem to cast magic spells like anyone else, it's just a question of where they get the power.  So I for one would find it a bit weird and "off" to call them alchemists. Incidentally, there is a quite interesting manga about alchemy by the author of Spice and Wolf, Magdala de Nemure, which seems to have had no love for over a year.

I do agree that alchemy does have a rigid rules and is more of a proto science than a magic, but I assume Seven Seas consulted Kore Yamazaki about it. I do agree it's not a very technical choice of words, but it was a lot less confusing than the use of Wizards. Mages are mahoutsukai 魔法使いmagic users and wizards are majutsushi 魔術師, users of.. literally "magecraft/spellcraft user" which is more typically used for people who don't use real magic but can summon it, but it's not an innate magic or miracle (like using spells or rituals) . The more I look at this, the more people have gone through hell trying to translate it a way where the distinction is obvious (like in the Type-Moon universe where the distinction between majutsu "magic" and mahou "true magic" is also important.)

 

Edit: I did more reading and it seems like "wizard" is one of those words that is used so loosely that it entirely depends on in-universe explanations. Like wizards can be specially spell-users with no innate magic, or they can be someone with innate magic production. Like.... the wizards from Harry Potter are translated as "mahoutsukai" (which is also the standard translation for "witch"). But Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry is translated as Hogwart's mahou and majutsu school. I'll read through the Japanese wikipedia on majutsu more later. 

And the worst of the worst of the worst scenario... screw buying and we just steal the dragon amidst this chaos!!
 
 
 
 
... Megumin and Michael Bay would be match made in heaven.

Naaaw, can you imagine Michael Bay being satisfied by a SINGLE explosion per day?
Whew. Since when does Ainsworth know enough about emotions to manipulate people?

To be fair, the moment Elias withheld the info about the college, it was foreboding that Chise and Elias' views will clash. Its better to state it clearly now that he has gone possessive of her, which is a bad thing because he's relying too much in his ways while keeping her from the possibilities that could help her out..
 
Tho.. considering that whacked out glasses guy(?), if I were Elias I won't let Chise go to the college within 2 fucking meters.. I mean seriously, the guy just said they used her kind as batteries and keeps treating her like livestock.

Two meters? More like two kilometers. These guys are a plot twist away from being Cartaphilus' drinking buddies in disguise.

Ok so this chapter set up future trouble between Elias and Chise imo.

 

Also, both scar-in-cheek guy and shy-glasses-guy teachers look shady af.

To be fair, the moment Elias withheld the info about the college, it was foreboding that Chise and Elias' views will clash. Its better to state it clearly now that he has gone possessive of her, which is a bad thing because he's relying too much in his ways while keeping her from the possibilities that could help her out..

 

Tho.. considering that whacked out glasses guy(?), if I were Elias I won't let Chise go to the college within 2 fucking meters.. I mean seriously, the guy just said they used her kind as batteries and keeps treating her like livestock.

Angelica's father was a wizard and she couldn't create magical items in the same way he could because she's a magus, so not everyone can be a wizard. Also, Renfred told Alice in Chapter 27 that she has magical powers, so there has to be something there. Maybe I should go to Maigo's site and ask them about the translation...

What I meant was pretty much every none magi can be a wizard. Because if even magi's can be wizards, then all of them would be Slay Vegas who posses both qualities.

And the worst of the worst of the worst scenario... screw buying and we just steal the dragon amidst this chaos!!

Worst of the worst?  We're talking major savings here.

Regarding the Wizards versus Magi thing, I think Seven Seas tackled it better by translating wizardry as alchemy. Pretty much what the "wizards" have been doing is alchemy. I kinda think of it as alchemy needing equivalent exchange. Like they can create a fire from a flint and tinders, but a magi can directly create a fire using their own every or a fae's.

Hmmm . . . normally (I don't know about certain manga) alchemy has fairly specific associations in terms of what kind of thing it is, both in what you do to accomplish it which is mixing and purifying substances somewhat chemistry-style and in its symbolism, which again is about purification and transformation of essences both of materials and of the alchemist's own spirit (one thing I've found interesting is the idea that the whole base metals into gold schtick was at the same time about refining the alchemist from a baser to a purer self); mercury, quicksilver, symbolic of transformation, associated with Mercury/Hermes, was often central.  Anyway, if you get "magical" effects from alchemy it would normally be from some kind of elixir or substance, like a potion or the "universal solvent" or such. 

I don't see the "wizards" here as being like that; they seem to cast magic spells like anyone else, it's just a question of where they get the power.  So I for one would find it a bit weird and "off" to call them alchemists.

Incidentally, there is a quite interesting manga about alchemy by the author of Spice and Wolf, Magdala de Nemure, which seems to have had no love for over a year.

And the worst of the worst of the worst scenario... screw buying and we just steal the dragon amidst this chaos!!

 

 

Who let Megumin into the auction?!

 

OK, who let Michael Bay in the auction house?

 

... Megumin and Michael Bay would be match made in heaven.

Ok so this chapter set up future trouble between Elias and Chise imo.

 

Also, both scar-in-cheek guy and shy-glasses-guy teachers look shady af.

I think what Tory was trying to say is that wizards can't produce the same degree of magical quantity as magi without the help of outside sources that are easy to tap into such as "magical batteries".
It is probably because wizards the magic in their bodies that is linked to their life, so using too much magic could harm their own body. This is also in tangent with Chise which can do both, that is tap into her own magic as well as the fae. This also is part of the reason she is able to produce magic on orders of magnitude greater than anyone one else with little to no effort.

I'm going to go back on the water and cup analogy (can't remember which chapter) Wizards have to fill their cups of water with a well in their backyard, which is limited and may not refill. While magi have access to rivers and streams to fill their cups. Wizards are limited by their time and effort in drawing out the magic. Magi are limited in being able to control and refine the vast and fickle nature of the fae magic.

I think that's probably a good interpretation of the system, but I don't think that wizards are endangering their lives by using too much magic. If we go with Elias' waterwheel analogy in Chapter 8, then the problem is simply that there's too much magical flow for Chise's body to process.

 

I know Angelica used the river analogy in Chapter 13 to describe magic as a whole (not sure about the cup analogy though...it sounds familiar but I can't find it!), maybe it's like a wizard's well is technically bottomless, but they can only use that one bucket's worth of magic at a time. Or maybe, it's more like magi are natural streams fed by various things like mountain springs and snow melt, wizards are faucets with steady (but limited) streams fed by self contained man-made systems. Slay Vega can turn that faucet's flow into that of a busted fire hydrant, at the cost of their own bodies.

This is a great comic. 

I reread the chapters and this is my understanding about magi and wizards. Wizards are people who uses energy to create results within the bounds of reality. Meaning that what they can do are limited. But magi can borrow energy from the surroundings and magical creatures to achieve results not bound by reality. And this is what they call magic. And what wizards do is not magic but wizardry. That is why Tory said they can't do magic, because magic and wizardry are not the same. This means that in this story, magic and wizardry are different approaches to achieved the same result with magic being the greater one of the two. Which also means that anyone can be a wizard but only a few are gifted to be a magi.

Angelica's father was a wizard and she couldn't create magical items in the same way he could because she's a magus, so not everyone can be a wizard. Also, Renfred told Alice in Chapter 27 that she has magical powers, so there has to be something there. Maybe I should go to Maigo's site and ask them about the translation...

OK, who let Michael Bay in the auction house?

This is getting heavy and I'm enjoying it but....
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Regarding the Wizards versus Magi thing, I think Seven Seas tackled it better by translating wizardry as alchemy. Pretty much what the "wizards" have been doing is alchemy. I kinda think of it as alchemy needing equivalent exchange. Like they can create a fire from a flint and tinders, but a magi can directly create a fire using their own every or a fae's.

I'm a bit confused...there seems to be a contradiction in the world lore concerning magic and the difference between wizards and magi, anybody think they can clarify?

 

In Chapter 2, Angelica says that Magi borrow energy from fae and even their surroundings for their magic, while wizards use the energy within themselves to produce magic through spells (confirmed again in Chapter 9 by Elias). But in Chapter 34, Tory says that wizards can't produce magic and need to use other things (like Slay Vega) to use as batteries and that magi and witches are the ones that produce magic. Isn't that a reversal of already established lore? Or is he saying that the magic energy within wizards doesn't compare to the power of magi and witches and so they need extra reserves/amplifiers?

 

Also, yay for probably seeing our first witch!

I reread the chapters and this is my understanding about magi and wizards. Wizards are people who uses energy to create results within the bounds of reality. Meaning that what they can do are limited. But magi can borrow energy from the surroundings and magical creatures to achieve results not bound by reality. And this is what they call magic. And what wizards do is not magic but wizardry. That is why Tory said they can't do magic, because magic and wizardry are not the same. This means that in this story, magic and wizardry are different approaches to achieved the same result with magic being the greater one of the two. Which also means that anyone can be a wizard but only a few are gifted to be a magi.

I'm a bit confused...there seems to be a contradiction in the world lore concerning magic and the difference between wizards and magi, anybody think they can clarify?

 

In Chapter 2, Angelica says that Magi borrow energy from fae and even their surroundings for their magic, while wizards use the energy within themselves to produce magic through spells (confirmed again in Chapter 9 by Elias). But in Chapter 34, Tory says that wizards can't produce magic and need to use other things (like Slay Vega) to use as batteries and that magi and witches are the ones that produce magic. Isn't that a reversal of already established lore? Or is he saying that the magic energy within wizards doesn't compare to the power of magi and witches and so they need extra reserves/amplifiers?

 

Also, yay for probably seeing our first witch!

I think what Tory was trying to say is that wizards can't produce the same degree of magical quantity as magi without the help of outside sources that are easy to tap into such as "magical batteries".
It is probably because wizards the magic in their bodies that is linked to their life, so using too much magic could harm their own body. This is also in tangent with Chise which can do both, that is tap into her own magic as well as the fae. This also is part of the reason she is able to produce magic on orders of magnitude greater than anyone one else with little to no effort.

I'm going to go back on the water and cup analogy (can't remember which chapter) Wizards have to fill their cups of water with a well in their backyard, which is limited and may not refill. While magi have access to rivers and streams to fill their cups. Wizards are limited by their time and effort in drawing out the magic. Magi are limited in being able to control and refine the vast and fickle nature of the fae magic.

I'm a bit confused...there seems to be a contradiction in the world lore concerning magic and the difference between wizards and magi, anybody think they can clarify?

 

In Chapter 2, Angelica says that Magi borrow energy from fae and even their surroundings for their magic, while wizards use the energy within themselves to produce magic through spells (confirmed again in Chapter 9 by Elias). But in Chapter 34, Tory says that wizards can't produce magic and need to use other things (like Slay Vega) to use as batteries and that magi and witches are the ones that produce magic. Isn't that a reversal of already established lore? Or is he saying that the magic energy within wizards doesn't compare to the power of magi and witches and so they need extra reserves/amplifiers?

 

Also, yay for probably seeing our first witch!

Who let Megumin into the auction?!

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Nah, it's more about Ellias' own doubts about Chise wanting to stay with him. After all he sees himself as a monster and struggles to understand why Chise loves him so much

Well the whelp had enough of this bullshit.


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