Maoyuu Maou Yuusha - "Be Mine, Hero!" "I Refuse!"

I think its time to stop piracy this series.
you can buy 1 volume full for 600yen or $5 (197-206 page)

support mangaka and get season 2 faster :3

The issue with that is that the difficulty in getting physical copies. I have no issues with buying a physical copy as a way to support the author, but the inability to do that... well, what can I do?

yeah, except that finding physical copies of official english mangas is limited to what you can find in Kinokuniya in Jakarta, and I don't think they have Maoyuu.

 

Heck, they don't even sell Gintama, last i check. (around Dec last year)

Well, that's Jakarta, even worse in Yogyakarta, lel.

I think its time to stop piracy this series.
you can buy 1 volume full for 600yen or $5 (197-206 page)

support mangaka and get season 2 faster :3

yeah, except that finding physical copies of official english mangas is limited to what you can find in Kinokuniya in Jakarta, and I don't think they have Maoyuu.

Heck, they don't even sell Gintama, last i check. (around Dec last year)

I think its time to stop piracy this series.
you can buy 1 volume full for 600yen or $5 (197-206 page)

support mangaka and get season 2 faster :3

Wow, first time I have heard of this. No wonder.
Good for them. Best method to combat piracy right here.

yeah..... its like half of the price of what a print would be, which are usually $10. They just tweeted vol 16 will be out soon too! https://twitter.com/BOOKWALKER_GL/status/699407218362322944 

and since they've been in business for over 5 years, pretty sure its safe to say this isn't a failure like jmanga.

kadokawa publishes their official digital translations faster than the scanlators , so maybe thats why they gave up? They're up to Vol 15 (chapters 47-49) in English. It's $5.41 or 600 JPY per volume too. 

Wow, first time I have heard of this. No wonder.
Good for them. Best method to combat piracy right here.

A new chapter is overdue, judging by the last upload date. I think the scanlators are busy with January work piles

kadokawa publishes their official digital translations faster than the scanlators , so maybe thats why they gave up? They're up to Vol 15 (chapters 47-49) in English. It's $5.41 or 600 JPY per volume too. 

A new chapter is overdue, judging by the last upload date. I think the scanlators are busy with January work piles

They were most likely counting on musket being VERY slow to reload. That is its characteristic they HEARD of from Blue Demon battle. Remember, none of those present at Gate Way City have personally encountered mass musket yet. Only White Tiger Duke, Demon Queen and Female Knight did.

 

Although they may be informed of the concept, they would likely think it's just a slower bow. What do you do when you face a pure range troops with slow reload speed ? Yep, you charge. Many Samurais did think like that back in the day. Ironically, the Orge clan is also the one who lead the charge. lol 

Also, the "multiple firing squad" tactic (as I don't know it's proper name in English) was historically invented after an invention of musket itself. It was what make this slow-ass inaccurate missile weapon see practical use in battlefield. So it was a BIG deal. In this story, it was just recently invented by Blue Ash King and was first implemented in this very battle. So no, nobody can anticipate that. As Demon Queen said so herself in this chapter.  

So yes, this manga is still historical realistic enough. Perhaps, too realistic. As some other posters said, they are a freaking demon. They should have more trick up their sleeve. Giant units, Flying units and especially MAGICIANS. Unlike Gate, magicians in this story seem to be very powerful. I believe they could easily best 15th century canons if they want to. Unfortunately, they utilized none of that.

A couple of points I have to make.

1) Demonic Flying units don't seem to actually exist much.  Dragon clan don't seem flight capable at all.

2) Giants throwing boulders.  Nice idea.  What range?  A Giant is say 10 times taller, does that really mean it can throw things 100m away?  How big a rock?  Don't forget, the Giants here are pretty non aggressive.  There aren't any Giant sized slings and bows that they can use.

3) Torsion siege engines (Catapults and the like).  Gateway city doesn't have any.  They had barely 1500 troops in the whole city before they levied up.

4) Magicians.  Most of the magic seen (aside from the big exceptions of Hero and Pleasant Serial Killer) seem to be personal range type things.  As was commented, a musket is the equivalent of a mid level fireball.  So, while I'm sure a mage would have more firepower than a musketeer, the whole point made in chap 45 is that the Holy army was just going for the steamroller tactic.  Plus they had cannons....

5) Demons does not mean magically more uber.  That's the whole point being made.  They are stronger and faster - IN MELEE.  Which equals squat when facing a numerically superior force with ranged weapons which can penetrate all known defensive armor at this point.  Especially if you've never seen a gun before ...

Volume 15 (chapter 47-49) is out, you can check it at BookWalker.

Thanks for the clarification- didn't remember if anyone from gateway city had been at that battle. Understandably, it's easy for me to criticize with the advantage of history =D That being said, I recall someone else stating that large platoons of infantry amassing on the field was not really how major battles went down- is that true? In any case, I'm as surprised as others about the demon armies lack of other battle advantages or failure to utilize them.

They were most likely counting on musket being VERY slow to reload. That is its characteristic they HEARD of from Blue Demon battle. Remember, none of those present at Gate Way City have personally encountered mass musket yet. Only White Tiger Duke, Demon Queen and Female Knight did.

Although they may be informed of the concept, they would likely think it's just a slower bow. What do you do when you face a pure range troops with slow reload speed ? Yep, you charge. Many Samurais did think like that back in the day. Ironically, the Orge clan is also the one who lead the charge. lol 

Also, the "multiple firing squad" tactic (as I don't know it's proper name in English) was historically invented after an invention of musket itself. It was what make this slow-ass inaccurate missile weapon see practical use in battlefield. So it was a BIG deal. In this story, it was just recently invented by Blue Ash King and was first implemented in this very battle. So no, nobody can anticipate that. As Demon Queen said so herself in this chapter.  

So yes, this manga is still historical realistic enough. Perhaps, too realistic. As some other posters said, they are a freaking demon. They should have more trick up their sleeve. Giant units, Flying units and especially MAGICIANS. Unlike Gate, magicians in this story seem to be very powerful. I believe they could easily best 15th century canons if they want to. Unfortunately, they utilized none of that.

Yea, just confused at the tactics of gateway city in general. For a series that tries to maintain a level of "historicity", how is THAT the tactic used? Didn't they already SEE the damage of the muskets firsthand or at least hear of the damage from DQ/Hero during the battle with the blue demon king? Did the Gateway city 2nd in command say that he was surprised there were more than one line of muskets? REALLY? UGH. Honestly, with this level of stupidity, should have just holed up in the city, wait for DQ to get there with reinforcements from the rear, cuz this was a waste of forces.

They have higher ground, and with knowledge of crossbows, I thought they would have knowledge of trebuchets or catapults. Or have the giants chuck boulders at the formation, have the dragons fly over and drop rocks to cause confusion with the inclusion of the mages. 

I think they were counting on monsters having a generally more robust physiology than humans and that would be enough for them to absorb blows. The giants not being used as field artillery was weird, and the dragon clan doesn't seem to have flight. Really the biggest mistake they made was vastly underestimating the quantity of troops the crusaders could field.

The muskets are fairly new so i don't think they will be able to come up with a good sttrategy against it well maybe for now.

They have higher ground, and with knowledge of crossbows, I thought they would have knowledge of trebuchets or catapults. Or have the giants chuck boulders at the formation, have the dragons fly over and drop rocks to cause confusion with the inclusion of the mages. 

I can't believe they attack a superior army of muskets on a plain field. I was going wtf during their strategy meeting.

The muskets are fairly new so i don't think they will be able to come up with a good sttrategy against it well maybe for now.

Which one?

Yes.

Oh, it is. What digital format is it? Is it something that depends on Bookwalker staying in business to have access to?

Their digital format is epub.....

lol.....I also wouldn't worry about them ever going out of business and the books disappearing because after all...Jmanga died in less than 2 years while bookwalker has been going on for 5+ years....It looks safe to me *shrug* 

Or they could simply stop trying to fight them in large, wide open area.

 

Decimating infantry formations is a joke. Always has been. Its just that popular media is obsessed with the idea of presenting two massive armies slugging it out on the open battlefield.

nobody plays AOE 3 here dont they? sigh......

in the current position however, the enemy has no incentive to break form to an area of their disadvantage since they can just slowly move towards the enemy with their formations and cannons to hold advantage. that was their tactic in the battle. geographically speaking, they can move back to their highland advantage, but with those cannons the advantage isnt that great

the best u can do now is just make them stop advancing by disturbing their flanks and wear them out, or if they can formulate the tactic fast enough, use cavalry, to outmaneuver the enemy and disturb their ranks, by range or by melee.

the problem being that there is probably not enough time to gather info and develop sound tatic to fight them, and in the battle they tried to absorb fire, which resulted in massive loss and also massive loss of morale.

Presumably won't apply here, but really early rifles couldn't do squat to muskets on the battlefield because, slow as muskets were to reload, the rifled barrels made the rifles even way slower than that--took work to shove the bullet down the barrel.  So there was a role for a few sharpshooters, but a massed formation of musketeers vs. a massed formation of early riflemen would be a walkover for the musketeers, who would take one volley then close to range and win with firepower.  There were actually rifles in the Napoleonic era, and they were used in the wars, but mostly as auxiliaries.

isnt the rifle dq made a breech loading ones? Not muzzle loading? Iirc cartridge bolt action rifle also available during the 18th century

we need to train skirmishers to counter the muskets, Jaeger kiting all the way. that or train jans and abus guns, they will decimate any infantry formation

Or they could simply stop trying to fight them in large, wide open area.

Decimating infantry formations is a joke. Always has been. Its just that popular media is obsessed with the idea of presenting two massive armies slugging it out on the open battlefield.

A lot of typos and grammar errors in this chapter.

I can't believe they attack a superior army of muskets on a plain field. I was going wtf during their strategy meeting.

we need to train skirmishers to counter the muskets, Jaeger kiting all the way. that or train jans and abus guns, they will decimate any infantry formation