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Survival


Alt Names: alt サバイバルalt 陆地沉没记
Author: Saito Takao
Artist: Saito Takao
Genres: Action ActionAdventure AdventureDrama DramaShounen ShounenTragedy Tragedy
Type: Manga (Japanese)
Status: Ongoing
Description: An inexplicable catastrophe plunges Japan to the bottom of the ocean. A boy survives the misfortune, but he has been abandoned in a land surrounded by sea on all sides. His effort to stay alive compels him to sharpen his wit, as he finds that nothing he learned in school is useful for staying alive.

Status in country of origin:
22 Volumes (Complete, by Shougakukan in 1977)
16 Volumes + 1 Bonus Vol. (Reprint, by Leed in 1988)
6 Volumes + 1 Bonus Vol. (Wide-ban, by Leed in 1994)
20 Volumes + 1 Bonus Vol. (Konbini-ban, by Leed in 2000?)
10 Volumes +1 Bonus Vol. (Bunkoban, by Leed in 2001)
10 Volumes + 1 Bonus Vol. (Konbini-ban, by Leed in 2005)
7 Volumes +1 Bonus Vol. (Konbini-ban, by Leed in 2009)
8 Volumes (Hardcover, by Leed in ?)

Side Story:
> Survival: Another Story (set between chapters 76 and 77) (http://bato.to/comic/_/comics/survival-another-story-r20343)

Remake:
> Survival: Shounen S no Kiroku (http://bato.to/comic/_/comics/survival-shounen-s-no-kiroku-r18675)
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Chapters

Title Group Contributor Date
Vol.6 Ch.94: Danger 11
Dumbnut Category G A day ago
Vol.6 Ch.93: Danger 10
Dumbnut Category G A week ago
Vol.6 Ch.92: Danger 9
Dumbnut Category G A week ago
Vol.6 Ch.91: Danger 8
Dumbnut Category G 2 weeks ago
Vol.6 Ch.90: Danger 7
Dumbnut Category G 4 weeks ago
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388 Comments

die damn kid... you never learn... now i don't care of satoru anymore..

at long last, sweet release.

He was a flying fire type all along, fissure and earthquake did nothing to him, but the moment you hit him with torrent there he goes and dies.

The end.

at long last, sweet release.

The end.

Ch 94 thoughts:

Spoiler

my thought exactly...

Ch 94 thoughts:

Spoiler

Whatever floats your boat, man. I find that it doesn't add to anyone's enjoyment to meta into the plot like this. You're basically describing the fact that there's conflict and hardship in this story, but that applies to almost any story. It's like watching Titanic and calling Rose responsible for sinking the ship.

What if she had been in 5 consecutive shipwrecks? With them all travelling through antarctica.

I think that Satoru's surviving because of his mental fortitude, while everyone else are giving up. Think about the woman on the island, the old geezer and the drunk. You'd think that people would try harder, that the fight-or-flight response would kick in. But experiments shows that when faced with inescapable dangers, animals would sometimes freeze without fighting or escaping. Humans 'freeze' as well, mentally, like these villagers but our Satoru has a clear goal ahead of him, and follows through. That's a good lesson to learn from this series. Find a goal, and don't give up.

 

Regarding the last chapter, what fools they are. "He's running away! Now we DEFINITELY have to kill him! To keep him away!"

Spoiler

 

Whatever floats your boat, man. I find that it doesn't add to anyone's enjoyment to meta into the plot like this. You're basically describing the fact that there's conflict and hardship in this story, but that applies to almost any story. It's like watching Titanic and calling Rose responsible for sinking the ship.

so, when will he start searching for his family?...

This is a standard correlation-is-not-causation example. Saying he is/brings calamity is meaningless because everything is going to shit generally - he's just lucky and smart enough to survive. If that's what you actually meant, then... well, yes.

Yes.

 

But you can also look at it this way, we are following an action tragedy story from the hands of a sadistic author who is world renown for having one of longest ongoing manga stories which main character is an assassin for hire, he thrives on writing about grim, so if you want to make a big deal out of nothing with all of this, what i mean is that in this story it is imperative for Satoru to experience destruction whenever he goes because it is a part of the story the author wants to depict, and that's where the "he's just lucky" part enters, his luck is just relevant because everyone else isn't, thus just interacting with him is bound to bring them even more misery.

 

With all that said, the only ones that may come badly out of this may be just the bad guys of turn, however that will just confirm his prediction, because while Saturo may help the village, for him he will be a calamity for he will lose the power he managed to amass, and that's direct cause case, because that's how this story is written (did you forgot this was a work of fiction down the line somewhere?).

this kid never learned his lesson... how many times did he met people that are dangerous and such?... he should already be in aware and alert of other peoples by now...

This is a recurring theme in the manga, about how the MC is young and naive to the world.

 

A perfect example of a not-so-naive Satoru would be the baseball guy.

And out of all those examples the only survivor is Baseball Guy, because even the city he visited ended being destroyed... for the major Satoru was a calamity (But there's another example of someone surviving meeting Satoru, the scientist and his assistant.)

 

I am not trying to make this into a supernatural manga neither, but lets face it, he has a history with him.

 

This is a standard correlation-is-not-causation example. Saying he is/brings calamity is meaningless because everything is going to shit generally - he's just lucky and smart enough to survive. If that's what you actually meant, then... well, yes.

Eh, I disagree. As much as I'd like a supernatural twist in this manga, it's just that MC is very lucky and very well-adapted to the environment while most other characters are ill-adapted and maybe modestly lucky. The outcomes after meeting Satoru are all over the board. Like, his first companion was practically a caricature and would have gotten mauled by a goat or something anyway, the old guy in Tokyo was trying to kill himself and would've succeeded if not for MC, the dude with the rifle would've died of scurvy, the asshole who killed his daughter did it of his own volition, baseball dude is doing fine, the prisoner grandpa stepped into the line of fire willingly, the city with the power plant actually came out better for the encounter, etc.

And out of all those examples the only survivor is Baseball Guy, because even the city he visited ended being destroyed... for the major Satoru was a calamity (But there's another example of someone surviving meeting Satoru, the scientist and his assistant.)

 

I am not trying to make this into a supernatural manga neither, but lets face it, he has a history with him.

this kid never learned his lesson... how many times did he met people that are dangerous and such?... he should already be in aware and alert of other peoples by now...

Satoru does bring calamity with him to others.

 

Eh, I disagree. As much as I'd like a supernatural twist in this manga, it's just that MC is very lucky and very well-adapted to the environment while most other characters are ill-adapted and maybe modestly lucky. The outcomes after meeting Satoru are all over the board. Like, his first companion was practically a caricature and would have gotten mauled by a goat or something anyway, the old guy in Tokyo was trying to kill himself and would've succeeded if not for MC, the dude with the rifle would've died of scurvy, the asshole who killed his daughter did it of his own volition, baseball dude is doing fine, the prisoner grandpa stepped into the line of fire willingly, the city with the power plant actually came out better for the encounter, etc.

Satoru does bring calamity with him to others.

Maybe his improbable good luck comes from sapping everyone else's, like Binbougami Ga! lmao

MMm That look between Satoru and the priestess i wonder how old she is (Since everyone looks thirty )

Yes, yes.

But lest face it, they are not wrong, Satoru does bring calamity with him to others.

Especially since half the people he meets dies after meeting him, when they're not trying to kill him. He may as well be a walking grim reaper, carrying a pick axe as his scythe.

 

This chapter 90 shows how unquestioned religion and socialism works in a nutshell.

Spoiler

Oh Great, even in Apocalypse mangas you will find the japanese cult showing up... 

Yes, yes.

But lest face it, they are not wrong, Satoru does bring calamity with him to others.

Oh Great, even in Apocalypse mangas you will find the japanese cult showing up... 

Let's look at it like a scale: Effort + Chance = Success.
Winning the lottery is maybe 1% Effort + 99% Chance = Success.
Killing a tiger unprepared is maybe 10% Effort (muscles/reflexes) and 90% Chance (Terrain, tools, statuses) = Success.
Luck is when you're at bad odds, and still succeed, like in the two examples above.
Bad luck is when you're at good odds, but fail.
By thinking, calculating, and taking unknown occurrences into consideration, one can predict Chance moments, thereby increasing Effort.
(Ex. Could I meet something dangerous like a tiger here? If so, what would I do, where would I go? How can I avoid conflict? etc.)
 
Other peopl might screw up the numbers. They might call you lucky, when you've practiced really hard.
Or they might call you skilled when you guessed about everything on a test with multiple check-boxes.


Luck is when skill puts you in a position to win and you just need one thing to go right and it does.

"Ah, whatever, I still got my grandpa!" Seems like a legit death flag

Let's look at it like a scale: Effort + Chance = Success.

Winning the lottery is maybe 1% Effort + 99% Chance = Success.

Killing a tiger unprepared is maybe 10% Effort (muscles/reflexes) and 90% Chance (Terrain, tools, statuses) = Success.

Luck is when you're at bad odds, and still succeed, like in the two examples above.

Bad luck is when you're at good odds, but fail.

By thinking, calculating, and taking unknown occurrences into consideration, one can predict Chance moments, thereby increasing Effort.

(Ex. Could I meet something dangerous like a tiger here? If so, what would I do, where would I go? How can I avoid conflict? etc.)

 

Other peopl might screw up the numbers. They might call you lucky, when you've practiced really hard.

Or they might call you skilled when you guessed about everything on a test with multiple check-boxes.


Isn't that luck?

 

You can see it like that, but luck can also be seen as something that a person can change using metaphysical means that interfere with their future and changes it into a more beneficial one, it is also seen as something that can be spend and that can be acquired and lost, and even saved... similarly you could even acquire bad luck, following that logic.

 

On the other hand chance can be seen as something that just occurs at random and can't be altered, it just happens without any particular connection to something related to a person (like a charm, ritual, or even destiny, if you are born to a rich household that doesn't means your life is settled, random change can still affect you like everyone else). With that said in both cases we refer to someone fortunate as lucky, which does get confusing at times (and by at times, i mean all the time).

You can't pull out luck, since no such thing as luck. Chance as been in his favor though.

 

Chance as been in his favor though.

Isn't that luck?


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