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Vinland Saga


Alt Names: alt ヴィンランド・サガalt ملحمة فينلاندalt Vinland Destanıalt 海盜戰記alt حماسه وینلند
Author: Yukimura Makoto
Artist: Yukimura Makoto
Genres: Action ActionAdventure AdventureAward Winning Award WinningDrama DramaHistorical HistoricalPsychological PsychologicalSeinen Seinen
Type: Manga (Japanese)
Status: Ongoing
Description: Thorfinn is son to one of the Vikings’ greatest warriors, but when his father is killed in battle by the mercenary leader Askeladd, he swears to have his revenge. Thorfinn joins Askeladd’s band in order to challenge him to a duel, and ends up caught in the middle of a war for the crown of England.

Won the 13th Japan Media Arts Award Grand Prize in the Manga division.
Won the 36th Kodansha Manga Award for Best General Manga.
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Chapters

Title Group Contributor Date
Vol.20 Ch.139: Baltic Sea War (15)
4chan ersatz 2 days ago
Vol.19 Ch.136: Guerre en Mer Baltique ⑫
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Vol.19 Ch.135: Guerre en Mer Baltique ⑪
Shamballa Alchemist Team Jayjay210 2 weeks ago
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I remember I commented here ages ago, when the farmland saga wasn't over yet. I was annoyed at the people who didn't understand the point of this manga. Why would you want to read about a character that mindlessly kills everyone who gets in the way of his revenge? It's not constructive. It's a path to damnation. I don't want to read about that, and anyone who wants to, well... I'd question their tastes.

 

I guess I'll put the rest of my comment on spoiler tags, as it does contain spoilers and I don't want to bore anyone who doesn't willingly try to read what I think.

 

Spoiler

 

I guess that's it. I agree with Zhi Laohu... Vinland Saga's fanbase is kind of toxic. I don't understand why. This is such a wonderful manga.

 

Edit: Uhh... I just realized that Rex Nemorensis said pretty much what I wanted to say, but in a much better way. This is what I get from being impulsive. Oh well. 

Oh man those eyes...goose bumps!

Sigh, teenage kids and young adults in the comments, never having been forced to make tough decisions that go against their core values (if they even have any...).

That's how this comment section has always been. It's unfortunate, but Vinland Saga picked up a repulsive fanbase on Batoto.

So the whole chapter was about retarded Thorfinn who had to be lectured about obvious things... This is getting annoying. Good thing there are manga like Desert Punk where characters act pragmatically and logically and aren't wusses.


Goral, pls. I love that manga almost as much as you do. In fact, I agree that it's superior to this one. But that is an unfair comparison. The motives and circumstances of the characters are hardly alike, and so are the themes the authors are presenting. The stories, as a whole, can't be compared.

 

The point of this entire arc is going over your head. You're right in saying that Thorfinn is being unreasonable; the thing is, that's what he's supposed to realize. Bear with me for a while.

 

Spoiler

Sigh, teenage kids and young adults in the comments, never having been forced to make tough decisions that go against their core values (if they even have any...).

"Core values" haha. It seems that you haven't read the manga. Must not have the time being a True!Adult and all. These are fairly new values that he construed from a romanticized memory of his late father. His "core" values (or lack thereof) developed over his time as a mercenary, his late childhood and adolescence.
Thorfinn is trying to emulate his father (or what he remembers of his father) after losing everything an becoming a slave, these are not /his/ values at all. Even his dad knew it was impossible to be completely non-violent and drew a (broken) sword to protect his son. But in the end even that kind of pseudo-pacifism was unsuccessful and his family suffered because of it. I suspect realizing this, that his father wasn't a paragon or ubermensch, will become part of Thorfinn's ongoing character development.

Also there rarely comes a time where an adult needs to go against their core values to such an extent. I don't know who you are, or who you think you are, but the modern world doesn't challenge your morality much. If anything I had more existential decision making as a teenager. Ya know? Drugs, sex, liquor, violence, thievery. If you're an /adult/ and still experiencing those moral quandary, you became the wrong kind of adult.

Thorfinn evil eyes, the stuff is becoming realz~

Sigh, teenage kids and young adults in the comments, never having been forced to make tough decisions that go against their core values (if they even have any...).

I wonder why you are even bothering to read a manga when you manage to absolutely, completely and dazzingly manage to miss its whole point.

I see that you're missing the point - if Thorfinn needs to have obvious things explained then either he's retarded or insane already, he's going to absolute extremes, trying to act like a saint even after all atrocities he did. As for author's intention, the "love and peace" slogan is loud and clear, too loud and doesn't make any sense in this setting. Even once he'll reach Vinland it's more than certain that Indians might not take kindly their attempts to settle and what then? Thorfinn has been naive long enough, it's high time for him to grow up and either choose to be responsible and kind to others or choose to become a saint who will die trying to not kill any of his enemies, taking his friends with him. It's especially funny when you take into account that he hated his father for it and for a good reason, the whole hostage situation might as well ended up with Thors surrendering and Askeladd killing EVERYONE, leaving no witness behind. In fact, in real life that would most likely be the case.

 

I was buying Thorfinn's philosophy while he was just a farmer, since he could afford there to just hold his head low doing what his master told him to do. But ever since their escape it's more and more annoying and he should be dead already but isn't only because of plot armour.

Good thing there are manga like Desert Punk where characters act pragmatically and logically and aren't wusses.

Aren’t wusses? What? WHAT!? Have you even read the manga? The main character is so obsessed with a certain woman’s tits that he won’t kill her even after she tried to kill him on multiple occasions. Yet the one time he manages to catch her he doesn’t actually rape her as he tried all those times before. And not for any reasons relating to ethics or tender feeling for her, mind you! How is that MC not the epitome of wusses?

So the whole chapter was about retarded Thorfinn who had to be lectured about obvious things... This is getting annoying. Good thing there are manga like Desert Punk where characters act pragmatically and logically and aren't wusses.

 

I wonder why you are even bothering to read a manga when you manage to absolutely, completely and dazzingly manage to miss its whole point.

So the whole chapter was about retarded Thorfinn who had to be lectured about obvious things... This is getting annoying. Good thing there are manga like Desert Punk where characters act pragmatically and logically and aren't wusses.

don't worry, thorfinn will go back.

So the whole chapter was about retarded Thorfinn who had to be lectured about obvious things... This is getting annoying. Good thing there are manga like Desert Punk where characters act pragmatically and logically and aren't wusses.

The eyes... they're back... Why does our little cinnabun Thorfinn always get stuck in these catch 22 situations?

Spoiler

Need more of this kind of character. And it shall be called the common sense trope.

Whichever Thorfinn choose he'll still suffer either way..

Soon constantinople.. soon..

Nah she would've stayed if it wasn't for that arranged marriage

You know perfectly well that's bullshit, she always wanted to leave and become an explorer, the marriage was just an excuse to push her into action, and now she is here talking shit.

Demut, what is the difference between "a cute" and "cutie"?

A cute is someone so cute that you can’t even speak properly and call them a “cutie”. Basically, their cuteness left you so weak and smitten that you are only able to utter the first syllable of “cutie” (in other words, /ˈkjuːt/) ^v^

...For this reason many countries required their peasantry to do a certain amount of informal combat training each month. In england, for example, I believe peasants were expected to be able to shoot a bow proficiently and every household required to own at least one sword.


Peasants were not required to have combat training, nor to have bow proficiency. Yeomen and some classes of villans (semi-peasants living in castle towns) were. It's a general historical misconception because we tend to group all these people as "peasants", but medieval social classes were more granular than that. Generally you don't want your peasants to be able to fight back when you decide to go out there and collect taxes. Also, the minimum requirement for arms for the peasant class was a spear. Sword ownership was limited to yeomen, burghers, and villans, and only yeomen and burghers were allowed to wear them in towns. In the latter medieval period secondhand swords actually became cheaper than spears, so a lot of peasants ended up buying those to satisfy the requirement.

Odysseus was a Prince.His brief stint in farming was a ruse to avoid going to war which,incidentally, failed.


And Ragnar Lothbrok was already a Jarl when he left for his expedition, so his "farming" would have looked more like Ketil's. He took slaves during his expeditions but sold none of them, so he must have had some amount of land. Basically, he's what Thorgil would have looked like had he inherited the farm.

Said Gudrid, the one who sail away from such life. 

 

Nah she would've stayed if it wasn't for that arranged marriage

or except when you're Ragnar Lothbrok

or Odyseus

or whatever, many great warriors were farming their lands in times of peace

Odysseus was a Prince.His brief stint in farming was a ruse to avoid going to war which,incidentally, failed.

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or except when you're Ragnar Lothbrok

or Odyseus

or whatever, many great warriors were farming their lands in times of peace

Most medieval warriors were farmers most of the time. The only real professional soldiers were mercenaries. The vast bulk of armies were composed of conscripts only temporarily levied during wartime. For this reason many countries required their peasantry to do a certain amount of informal combat training each month. In england, for example, I believe peasants were expected to be able to shoot a bow proficiently and every household required to own at least one sword.

The path of the warrior and the path of the farmer are usually not very compatible. ^.-

 

(Except when it's to become a hero-sama)

or except when you're Ragnar Lothbrok

or Odyseus

or whatever, many great warriors were farming their lands in times of peace


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