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Vinland Saga


Alt Names: alt ヴィンランド・サガalt ملحمة فينلاندalt Vinland Destanıalt 海盜戰記alt حماسه وینلند
Author: Yukimura Makoto
Artist: Yukimura Makoto
Genres: Action ActionAdventure AdventureAward Winning Award WinningDrama DramaHistorical HistoricalPsychological PsychologicalSeinen Seinen
Type: Manga (Japanese)
Status: Ongoing
Description: Thorfinn is son to one of the Vikings’ greatest warriors, but when his father is killed in battle by the mercenary leader Askeladd, he swears to have his revenge. Thorfinn joins Askeladd’s band in order to challenge him to a duel, and ends up caught in the middle of a war for the crown of England.

Won the 13th Japan Media Arts Award Grand Prize in the Manga division.
Won the 36th Kodansha Manga Award for Best General Manga.
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The following content is intended for mature audiences and may contain sexual themes, gore, violence and/or strong language. Discretion is advised.


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Chapters

Title Group Contributor Date
Vol.19 Ch.134: Baltic Sea War (10)
4chan ersatz 3 weeks ago
Vol.19 Ch.134: Baltık Denizi Savaşı (10)
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Vol.19 Ch.133: Guerre en Mer Baltique ⑨
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Vol.19 Ch.133: Baltık Denizi Savaşı (9)
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Vol.19 Ch.132: Baltık Denizi Savaşı (8)
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Vol.4 Ch.23: Destek Kuvvet
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Vol.4 Ch.22: Devin Tek Oğlu
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Also, I was thinking trolls or orcs instead of dwarves

 

Nah... Vagn is definitely a dwarf... I mean, LOOK AT HIM!

lately we get less angry Sig, almost like a new chara

 

back when Thorfinn made a decision to not harm ppl and follow his father's footsteps, I though he's going to learn this weaponless fighting method but it seems he knew it all along? 

Yay! Siggy's back! Ages ago I joked that maybe Thorkell would buy them or something... AND HE DID. That's just..... oh, well...

 

I get the feeling that after seeing the Jomsvikings battle each other Siggy's going to rethink his career choices. 

 

Also, elf, go away! This is a fight between dwarves, damnit!

I dunno bout sig I mean he's pretty competent with his weapon of choice despite being comic relief.

 

Also, I was thinking trolls or orcs instead of dwarves

That's an astronomican amount.

Aw come on, it's quite a imperial weapon!

On Topic:

 

Hild's expression was interesting, following his swiftly

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Unrelated:

 

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Why do I get this odd tingly feeling that spiky hair may become a thorfinn merryman?

he's too much of a fight addict so I doubt it, he's probably going to end up fighting Thorfinn in this arc, since like thorfinn he prefers speed-focused fights

 

 

2. Because a murder pretty much only cause bad thing to normally not many people, while a troll does bad thing against a whole community. They directly annoy more people. Thus get hate by many, thus quantity makes up for quality. Many little hate = 1 great hate.
2.1. Another problem about troll, rapist and humaliating crimes is that while taking a life has a equal punishment 'execution'. There isnt a legal equal punishment for those crimes.

You didn't account for the relatives/friends/acquaintances of the the person/people the murderer killed are also negatively affected: which this manga shows pretty well especially with thors' death affecting many characters. Also, more murders in the world generally causes more people in the world to have more unnecessary fear in their lives: especially for people who live around the area where the murder took place. In other words: a murderer is both a high quality and a high quantity evil. 

  I agree with you that trolls are pretty detestable though, and I also think some trolls are hated as much as/more than murderers.

Uh oh. Thorfiin better protect his "Back" door. XD

Why do I get this odd tingly feeling that spiky hair may become a thorfinn merryman?

Yay! Siggy's back! Ages ago I joked that maybe Thorkell would buy them or something... AND HE DID. That's just..... oh, well...

 

I get the feeling that after seeing the Jomsvikings battle each other Siggy's going to rethink his career choices. 

 

Also, elf, go away! This is a fight between dwarves, damnit!

That is a big warhammer Vagn has, I wonder how much it cost him.

 

Probably 40 thousand.

 

That's an astronomican amount.

That is a big warhammer Vagn has, I wonder how much it cost him.

 

Probably 40 thousand.

I like Garm.

Well that's because raping someone is much worse than killing them in most senses. Raping someone usually ruins that person for life or at least mentally messes them up in such a way that they can't function like a regular human being. It's almost like suffering for the rest of your life. Would you rather suffer for the rest of your life or just die? A lot of rape victims end up taking their lives.


Berserk isn't real life.
And according to your ridiculous logic, killing someone after raping them would somehow be an act of mercy.

Yeah, about that, I wouldn’t feel it justified if a brother killed his sister’s rapist. Vigilantism is to be despised, not cheered. Where are you from, incidentally? That kind of mentality seems rather ... antiquated. In what bizarro world are trolls almost hated as fervently as murderers? You really do have some weird ideas. So because it happened a lot you think it needn’t be criticized? Then by that logic in the comment section of a manga with plenty of raping (e.g. Wolf Guy remake) one would be “insane or a troll” to point out and admonish the rape? That seems pretty strange. What? Don’t you twist my words now. I just repeated how, according to them, rape is oh-so-bad that getting killed instead makes you better off (a not even logically tenable position) and that as such suicide would be preferable to continued living.Anyhow, the rest of your post seems to concede that there are some rare situations in which rape is justified (at least in the same sense that murder can be justified). So, uh ... thanks for making my point? Not quite sure why you said this in so many words.

1. You seem to love twisting words, since when "not hating somebody" = "cheering on him"?
1.2. So, during a morning, you read a newpaper story about some random guy killing a rapist and another story about a rapist, and you would be like "oh no poor rapist, fuck the murder" ? Wow, just wow. Where are you from? You are weird. See what I did?

2. Because a murder pretty much only cause bad thing to normally not many people, while a troll does bad thing against a whole community. They directly annoy more people. Thus get hate by many, thus quantity makes up for quality. Many little hate = 1 great hate.
2.1. Another problem about troll, rapist and humaliating crimes is that while taking a life has a equal punishment 'execution'. There isnt a legal equal punishment for those crimes.

3. You are insane because you've kept reading what you hate for years. If you arent, you are a troll because you come to a manga's discuss sector, make a fight when you barely read it or didnt even read it at all.

4. Back from the 1st comment of random guy A saying "rapist should just die" until now, it's pretty much proven that its not weird to say around here and you were the only one complained about that.

5. You should learn to accept others' opinions, "your opinion isnt wrong" doesnt mean "other opinions are wrong".
5.1. Because your comments seemed to just pretty much trying to start a flame then to become a "forum 1 man army" and keep the "my opinion is right, your opinion is wrong" flame goes on bigger and bigger, while twisting other people's words here and there to benefit your fight. I would just ignore you.

Yeah, about that, I wouldn’t feel it justified if a brother killed his sister’s rapist. Vigilantism is to be despised, not cheered. Where are you from, incidentally? That kind of mentality seems rather ... antiquated.

It's slightly more complicated than just being antiquated.

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2. There are many murder cases that can be compassionated with, they are wronged and deserves to be punished but people just cant hate them. (Killing the rapist who raped your sister for example).

Yeah, about that, I wouldn’t feel it justified if a brother killed his sister’s rapist. Vigilantism is to be despised, not cheered. Where are you from, incidentally? That kind of mentality seems rather ... antiquated.
 

Forum Trolls can be the examples of somebody who is doing lesser serious crimes but gets hated, almost as much as muderers.

In what bizarro world are trolls almost hated as fervently as murderers? You really do have some weird ideas.
 

2.1. About this manga, there were so many killing scenes in it that anyone who is still reading this and commenting "Murderers should all just die" must either be insane or be a troll.

So because it happened a lot you think it needn’t be criticized? Then by that logic in the comment section of a manga with plenty of raping (e.g. Wolf Guy remake) one would be “insane or a troll” to point out and admonish the rape? That seems pretty strange.
 

Um, no one said that rape victims should kill themselves. Don't intentionally twist his words.

What? Don’t you twist my words now. I just repeated how, according to them, rape is oh-so-bad that getting killed instead makes you better off (a not even logically tenable position) and that as such suicide would be preferable to continued living.

Anyhow, the rest of your post seems to concede that there are some rare situations in which rape is justified (at least in the same sense that murder can be justified). So, uh ... thanks for making my point? Not quite sure why you said this in so many words.

I believe you yourselves arent crazy, but that comment was crazier than the one you quoted.

I have no idea why you'd think so. The "let's not get crazy here" is not meant to be taken litteraly, it's about not going too fast with rhetorical questions, assumptions, and forcing people's opinions into a fake duality where you either subscribe to anything social justice-y or you don't deserve your human rights. It's not crazy and it's not just wrong, it's a sophistry.

 

And I don't see how my comment is the slightest bit crazy.

 

Ok I won't ship hilde with thorfinn anymore so I'll ship her with that dude talking beside vagn instead

I ship her with her crossbow. You know I'm right.

Ok I won't ship hilde with thorfinn anymore so I'll ship her with that dude talking beside vagn instead

Nothing like some good old Thorkell action to get the party going!

 

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Nothing like some good old Thorkell action to get the party going!

Thorkell ought to be clinking bottles together

Wait, NA? wut? Did i missed something? Leaving aside plot, can he even make it that far? Need someone with good knowledge of Sea voyage to confirm :\


Yes he can, because the real life Thorfinn succeeded at it.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinland

 

According to the Saga of Erik the Red, Thorfinn "Karlsefni" and a company of 160 men, going south from Greenland traversed an open stretch of sea, found Helluland, another stretch of sea, Markland, another stretch of sea, the headland of Kjalarnes, the Wonderstrands, Straumfjörð and at last a place called Hóp, a bountiful place where no snow fell during winter. However, after several years away from Greenland, they chose to turn back to their homes when they realised that they would otherwise face an indefinite conflict with the natives.
 

It just seemed that the author is aiming for a message of better treatment the locals and the hypocrisy of Honor and their actions. I just hope the author doesn't take the step too far and then all of the sudden start arguing for rights of the people, humane treatment, etc. when that kind of perspective was pretty much absent in roughly 1000AD


It wasn't totally absent, or did you missed when they were accused of behaving like "Christian monks" for showing concern for the kidnapped women?

People arguing for the rights of others etc. existed in those times. They existed in almost every time and they were usually religious leaders and/or martyrs. But there were also many common people who shared those beliefs (and were in fact followers of the former, such as early Christians.). What was absent (or at least was extremely rare) were ruling classes arguing for human rights, etc. And if a King or other ruler appeared who did show empathy for other people, he or she would instantly become a legend, because of how rare that was.

I believe you yourselves arent crazy, but that comment was crazier than the one you quoted.

Dont know about equality but I believe that no matter whatever era it is, an armed female hunter, who almost got raped in the past, got mad looking at an assumedly raping scene and started firing arrow at the rapists is nothing out of ordinary.

 

It just seemed that the author is aiming for a message of better treatment the locals and the hypocrisy of Honor and their actions. I just hope the author doesn't take the step too far and then all of the sudden start arguing for rights of the people, humane treatment, etc. when that kind of perspective was pretty much absent in roughly 1000AD

I am most definitely not. Do you have reasons to believe otherwise?

I believe you yourselves arent crazy, but that comment was crazier than the one you quoted.

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Dont know about equality but I believe that no matter whatever era it is, an armed female hunter, who almost got raped in the past, got mad looking at an assumedly raping scene and started firing arrow at the rapists is nothing out of ordinary.
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