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So I tried to find some of the songs mentioned/played in this manga but nothing came up. Could be because I was searching in English, but either way I'd really like to find more koto music. I just don't really know where to start.

 

Here's one I found



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Hello -____-'

(lmfao @ ur username)

 

Weeks ago, I shared this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_Db88Ef6FQ

 

It's a song from the manga! The one that the members played to the school.



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To be honest, I had really high expectations, cus the manga conveyed the "damn that was so awesome" feeling so well. But then when I listened to the real performance, I was really disappointed :(  IMO, there's a huge problem with the koto: it's too unbalanced because there's no bass. I play piano, and the left hand is very important in adding weight to the piece. But the koto is all strings, and so all the sounds are high and there's no solidity to the music. Although there are bass stringed-instruments (ex. cello), those add weight because they're played with a bow, so their notes are long and serves as a reliable ongoing bass. But the koto is plucked, and so this doesn't happen.

tl;dr
Real life koto isn't nearly as awesome as the manga makes it out to be. Go play the piano instead :D



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Eh I still love the sound of them. I don't know much either but here's an awesome less traditional one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmY1WieykpE

 

And a cover of an alternative rock song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm2glu3WLGk



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To be honest, I had really high expectations, cus the manga conveyed the "damn that was so awesome" feeling so well. But then when I listened to the real performance, I was really disappointed :(  IMO, there's a huge problem with the koto: it's too unbalanced because there's no bass. I play piano, and the left hand is very important in adding weight to the piece. But the koto is all strings, and so all the sounds are high and there's no solidity to the music. Although there are bass stringed-instruments (ex. cello), those add weight because they're played with a bow, so their notes are long and serves as a reliable ongoing bass. But the koto is plucked, and so this doesn't happen.

tl;dr
Real life koto isn't nearly as awesome as the manga makes it out to be. Go play the piano instead :D

 

First of all, I don't get why you're hating on the koto so much

  • the bridges are adjustable, notice that each persons is in a different position, so they can play different notes.
  • the person playing Satowa is playing a 17 string koto, also known as a bass-koto. she can play low notes but they need her in the melody
  • Playing a dedicated bass part is really freaking hard so their newbies can't do it yet.
  • Why are you complaining about the instrument they're playing when that's what the manga is about??

Second, a bass string instrument doesn't need a bow.

  • the Bass which is lower than a cello can be plucked or bowed. =_=;
  • Plucked string instruments carry a sound over longer periods by not dampening it after it's plucked.
  • Pianos (which are pretty much string instruments) have dampeners that are lowered when you release the key (because it will keep projecting the sound otherwise)

Third, I don't get why you thought it was going to be anything different. They're playing a newbie song because they're newbies. Yeah the manga made it look awesome but it's a manga. I feel the same way about stuff in piano no mori but I don't go on jcafe complaining about pianos.

 

anyway, you killed my buzz so I'm killing yours ^_~

I thought it sounded awesome...

 

edit: killed MY* buzz not by lol


Edited by MagicWafflez, 05 July 2014 - 11:12 PM.


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First of all, I don't get why you're hating on the koto so much

 

Yeah I don't really get it. I'm more puzzled by the fact he was baited by it? "Not as cool as the manga portrays"

I mean... every single "sport" shonen does this... They make it seem like there's nothing more exciting than what is currently happening.

 

You see it in sports manga that feature baseball, basketball, football, soccer. 

 

You see it in manga that feature music, dance, ice skating.

 

You see it in intellectual sports, like chess, Shogi, Go and other form of gambling manga. 

 

Don't think you're  going to be as excited about something portrayed in a manga.

 

Best example of this is when a guy player Go just made a player fall into his trap and suddenly decide to pick up his piece, lift his arm so far up and then slams the piece into the correct place ( not breaking the board in the process, might I add ).

 

If you think you're going to be as hyped up as that guy about every sport manga... Then you either are a fool or are easily amused.


Edited by Evilnemesis, 06 July 2014 - 11:57 PM.


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Yeah I don't really get it. I'm more puzzled by the fact he was baited by it? "Not as cool as the manga portrays"

I mean... every single "sport" shonen does this... They make it seem like there's nothing more exciting than what is currently happening.

 

You see it in sports manga that feature baseball, basketball, football, soccer. 

 

You see it in manga that feature music, dance, ice skating.

 

You see it in intellectual sports, like chess, Shogi, Go and other form of gambling manga. 

 

Don't think you're  going to be as excited about something portrayed in a manga.

 

Best example of this is when a guy player Go just made a player fall into his trap and suddenly decide to pick up his piece, lift his arm so far up and then slams the piece into the correct place ( not breaking the board in the process, might I add ).

 

If you think you're going to be as hyped up as that guy about every sport manga... Then you either are a fool or are easily amused.

xD I know right~♥

 

I was ridiculously excited the whole time I watched Shion no Ou and I don't even know how to play shogi, they just made it that way



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Ohey talking about koto music is cool and all, but sharing some more would be better~



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To be honest, I had really high expectations, cus the manga conveyed the "damn that was so awesome" feeling so well. But then when I listened to the real performance, I was really disappointed :(  IMO, there's a huge problem with the koto: it's too unbalanced because there's no bass. I play piano, and the left hand is very important in adding weight to the piece. But the koto is all strings, and so all the sounds are high and there's no solidity to the music. Although there are bass stringed-instruments (ex. cello), those add weight because they're played with a bow, so their notes are long and serves as a reliable ongoing bass. But the koto is plucked, and so this doesn't happen.

tl;dr
Real life koto isn't nearly as awesome as the manga makes it out to be. Go play the piano instead :D

if you can afford one, how about a harpsichord of a clavichord? One of my brother's friends actually has a harpsichord.

When you press the key on a harpsichord, it kinda just stops and if you push enough pressure, it falls all the way with the tone emitting. A problem with it is that you can barely vary the volume.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yegQRUhJkuM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzHmSbik8tA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWJe_Rfp5HI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSnuzI6KdiU

I think these are all the songs from the manga not sure as I can't read japanese



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I came across and bought a new album on amazon.com.  Only one was available from Taiwan.  It was a two CD set from my favorite koto master, Eto Kimio.  With two CD's in a Japanese production, it was incredible. The engineering and reproduction was unbelievable.  It had a number of songs I had never heard before, and made my Bose Wave sound like a sound stage.  The title is "Miraculous Resonances the Koto Legend Kimio Eto."  It has tracks that I have never heard from my ancient LP's and is in unbelievable fidelity.  I paid a buttload for this recording, but this Japanese recording was worth every penny.  It also had a biography that I haven't been able to find anywhere on the net or elsewhere.  The koto and orchestra concerto that other sources ascribed to Eto Kimio, was actually written by Henry Cowell, although Eto Kimio performed the world premier with Leopold Stokowski in the US and the Japanese premiere with Stokowski and the Tokyo Philharmonic Orchestra (both, apparently, in 1965).  Like one of the world's greatest organists (Helmut Walcha), Eto San lost his sight at the age of five (he was born in 1924).  Although unpopular in Japan after WWII, due to the popularity of western music, he was quite popular in the Western music scene, particularly America.  He also performed with jazz drummer Gene Krupa and flautist Bud Shank.  He still performed in Japan and internationally until he was left semi-paralysed by a stroke in 1995, and passed away in 2012.  In spite of the loss of popularity, his school of koto is still continuing under his son.  

 

I may be a fanboy, still loving Eto Sensei's performances after 50 or so years, but I only ask the younger generation to listen to them.  I also love Yoshimura Nanae, and listen to as many soloists and groups as I can come across.  Kono Oto Tomare's instrument may be a Japanese anachronism, but it's sound, and the music written for it are as important as the instruments and music that Bach and Beethoven wrote music for.  Different: yes. Instruments and concert hall different: yes.  Is it as important to music: definitely.  As a music lover,  I can only imagine and dream what J. S, Bach could have done with my beloved 13 (and more) stringed instrument.



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yegQRUhJkuMdoes anyone know the song that starts at 0:09 til 0:50



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so excited ~ omg finally they released the CD and 天泣 is on it ~ I bought the cd from Japan Amazon but I it's not here yet.

Here is a preview of the song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoSD_kaZ3Ik

 

by the way here is a more modern piece that I really love <3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q2bhviFlDk


Edited by uoroaix, 20 March 2017 - 06:14 PM.


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I ordered the  CD, and immediately played it upon arrival.  It is gorgeous!  I have one MAJOR gripe.  Everything written on the CD and paper inserts is in kanji, hiragana, and katakana, and I am a monolingual moron.  While I can recognize some of the classics, I would be overwhelmingly grateful if one of our Japanese literate readers would translate the essence of the 12 songs on the CD.  It would make it easier for my obsessive/compulsive self to enjoy the music!!!!!



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http://www.neowing.co.jp/product/KICC-1349/track?from_cdj=1

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RWBY,

 

Thank you, my friend.  The Romanji/English is now printed and folded up into the jewel case of the CD.  If you find yourself near Escondido, California, shoot me a line and perhaps we can get together to listen to koto music over a pot of kukicha (organic Kamakura) or a bottle of Hibiki.