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At what basis did this deserve "seinen" tag? I hope not because the protagonist is a 27-yo virgin dude. Because it felt more shoujo than Tonari no Kaibutsu if characters of Tonari no Kaibutsu gender swapped.

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Seinen, Shoujo, shounen, etc are simply tags that means the content is primarily aimed at a certain target audience (Normally decided by which magazine the manga is released in or by it's general content). In this case, the target audience is Male Between 18-30 years old that can related to the difficulties of work and the fantasy to go back to school after finishing it for the first time, which is why the Seinen tag is there. It doesn't mean the target audience is the only people that can enjoy the show, only that in theory, those are the people who should enjoy it the most. (Which is most likely true for this one if I base it to the comments around here)

 

A lot of school manga that are happening in a school setting have the seinen tag (K-on! or bokura wa minna kawaisou for example). The situation might look similar to Tonari no kaibutsu, but the tones or the main subjects covered by the seinen manga are most likely for an older audience than a Shoujo/Shounen. In the end though, these are just tags with vague target audience. It just means that on average Seinen will have more mature content but it doesn't mean there isn't another manga with a different tag that doesn't resemble it.

 

With that being said, I personally think that ReLIFE is a seinen and Tonari no Kaibutsu is a shoujo based on their content and how they approach things. Feel free to disagree.

PS: No where does it says Kaizaki is a virgin btw. In the first few chapter it mentions him not having a GF right now but that's it. It also implies later on that he actually does have experience but we don't know for sure so far.


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Sorry, but that is garbage. Why?

 

First, it was a webtoon original. It wasn't meant for male nor female audience of specific age.

 

Second, "the target audience is Male Between 18-30 years old that can related to the difficulties of work and the fantasy to go back to school after finishing it for the first time" is BS. Why? First of all, the "supposedly protagonist" as 27-yo male yet he lacks the male part and the 27-yo part. Tell me, what part of "him" reflects an actual male about to reach his 28th birthday? Have you ever read Ore Monogatari before? Now will you tell me that "the target audience is Male between 15-18 years old whom can relate to the protagonist"?

 

Third, it lacks appeal for adult male audiences. Which part of this manga can appeal to adult male supposedly age between 18-30?

 

Fourth, the artworks also didn't appeal to adult male audiences. It was bad, often skip the background, and again bland.

 

For the record, even Baka-updates didn't put any specific demographic on it's genre.



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I think it's been brought up before that Anichart has had the seinen tag associated with this title (from the anime adapation) as being at least one basis for including it here...

 

http://anilist.co/anime/21049/ReLIFE

 

ShinHouin, you should probably calm down a little bit, your last post comes off as excessively nasty and confrontational. If you don't like the fucking tags, just change 'em to whatever the hell you want 'em to be, that's what everybody else does around here.


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Sorry, but that is garbage. Why?

 

First, it was a webtoon original. It wasn't meant for male nor female audience of specific age.

 

Second, "the target audience is Male Between 18-30 years old that can related to the difficulties of work and the fantasy to go back to school after finishing it for the first time" is BS. Why? First of all, the "supposedly protagonist" as 27-yo male yet he lacks the male part and the 27-yo part. Tell me, what part of "him" reflects an actual male about to reach his 28th birthday? Have you ever read Ore Monogatari before? Now will you tell me that "the target audience is Male between 15-18 years old whom can relate to the protagonist"?

 

Third, it lacks appeal for adult male audiences. Which part of this manga can appeal to adult male supposedly age between 18-30?

 

Fourth, the artworks also didn't appeal to adult male audiences. It was bad, often skip the background, and again bland.

 

For the record, even Baka-updates didn't put any specific demographic on it's genre.

 

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First of all, the "supposedly protagonist" as 27-yo male yet he lacks the male part and the 27-yo part.

Are you sure you read this series?



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Third, it lacks appeal for adult male audiences. Which part of this manga can appeal to adult male supposedly age between 18-30?

 

Fourth, the artworks also didn't appeal to adult male audiences. It was bad, often skip the background, and again bland.

 

Did you poll adult males to discover that it lacks appeal for adult males?



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Third, it lacks appeal for adult male audiences. Which part of this manga can appeal to adult male supposedly age between 18-30?

 

Fourth, the artworks also didn't appeal to adult male audiences. It was bad, often skip the background, and again bland.

 

 

i'm in said category and i quite enjoy this manga...



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Agreed, I do think the primary appeal of this series is adult (seinen).  Most high school kids don't think about a re-try, and wouldn't appreciate a story about an adult walking in and helping out near as much as an adult would.  Doesn't mean they can't enjoy it - just that an adult is far more likely to (and will likely get more from it).

Note that Seinen just specifies adult - not necessarily adult male or female (though I agree it is more leaning towards the male side, I know many adult females who enjoy a story like this too).

But as a webtoon it isn't age limited (no restricted to adult content - which is often confused with the adult label) that doesn't mean it doesn't have that general appeal.

 

Shinhouin - you don't have to enjoy it if you don't want to, there is plenty of seinen manga I don't enjoy even though I'm an adult, that doesn't make me less adult nor does it make the material less geared to an adult audience.  You can think Kaizaki is unmanly or unadult (I disagree on both counts).  If you really think he is required to be different to fit either of those, then I think you really don't understand either manliness or adulthood (not that you can't think that - just that I think your understanding is lacking if you do).

So go enjoy what you want and chill ;)



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Edited by paladin14x, 27 September 2016 - 10:12 AM.


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At what basis did this deserve "seinen" tag? I hope not because the protagonist is a 27-yo virgin dude. Because it felt more shoujo than Tonari no Kaibutsu if characters of Tonari no Kaibutsu gender swapped.

Senen and shoujo are metagenres, to put it simply most part of titles can be diveded into this two groupes. 

То to put it in simple words:

Senen - when there is personal development of some sort: training, change of character, change of position in society.

Shoujo - when there is development in relationships.

And seinen/josei are just senen or shoujo with some additional topics, which are not very suited for young readers, for example here we have suicid and deep communication problems.



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Did you poll adult males to discover that it lacks appeal for adult males?

He represents all adult males /s



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Every manga that is serialized in a seinen mag is seinen. it doesn't mater what you think of it. same goes for shouren shoujo and Jossei.

 

Don't like it? no body cares so just deal with it.


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How often Shoujo tags deal with suicide, isolation, destruction of human ego and mercilessness of adult human society?

I am not sure if the OP looked closely on series.