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Shokugeki no Soma


Alt Names: alt 食戟のソーマalt 食戟之灵alt Food Wars!
Author: Tsukuda Yuuto
Artist: Saeki Shun
Genres: Comedy ComedyCooking CookingDrama DramaEcchi EcchiHarem HaremPsychological PsychologicalRomance RomanceSchool Life School LifeShounen Shounen
Type: Manga (Japanese)
Status: Ongoing
Description: Yukihira Souma's dream is to become a full-time chef in his father's restaurant and surpass his father's culinary skill. But just as Yukihira graduates from middle schools his father, Yukihira Jouichirou, closes down the restaurant to cook in America. Although downtrodden, Souma's fighting spirit is rekindled by a challenge from Jouichirou which is to survive in an elite culinary school where only 10% of the students graduate. Can Souma survive?

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Ch.231: Full Throttle In the Ring!
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That is Eizan being serious. I'm sure he's a wonderful chef and all when he's not competing with anybody... But when he is, the guy never even thinks of putting effort into winning without cheating or playing dirty. If anyone reading this hasn't yet... Go read ch234. You should be able to predict how it'll turn out from there.. I can't help but feel sorry for Eizan being the giant idiot that he is

And yes I realize I'm quoting a month-old comment.

Yes, shame on me for not knowing what will happen a month in advance.

Good job.

Maybe I should also go around and quote old comments to tell people they're wrong?

 

His "cheating" already requires a great deal of skill and knowledge. You think he made the Elite 10 on dumb luck? It's just that he has his head too far up his own arse to take it as seriously as he should.

Also his artichoke dish was a last minute alteration and it still came out splendidly. I don't like the guy but give credit where it's due.

He didn't get the 7th seat by dumb luck.

Eizan wasn't even remotely serious and just prepared a dish covering the bare minimum because he had bought the judges.

That is Eizan being serious. I'm sure he's a wonderful chef and all when he's not competing with anybody... But when he is, the guy never even thinks of putting effort into winning without cheating or playing dirty. If anyone reading this hasn't yet... Go read ch234. You should be able to predict how it'll turn out from there.. I can't help but feel sorry for Eizan being the giant idiot that he is

And yes I realize I'm quoting a month-old comment.

discussions are cool and everything but where are my foodgasms

"To aim for 'victory' is all well and good, but aiming for 'defeat' makes it much easier to trip your opponent..."

Holy shit this is 26 volumes in already.

I never want to see that style of eyes in this manga again.

That was quite a disturbing experience, wasn't it.

I never want to see that style of eyes in this manga again.

He defeated Koga's booth on one singular day and still got his ass kicked over-all. Eizan wasn't even remotely serious and just prepared a dish covering the bare minimum because he had bought the judges.

Those "victories" are as superficial as any win Souma pulled off. Ironic, considering he was lecturing Mimasaka about getting a superficial victory over Aldini.

 

I never disputed #8 and #3 losing. I said that they were, outside of Isshiki, their only real chance of winning against the #1 and 2.

As outlined before, nobody of the remaining chefs is even at Souma's level, who himself has yet to win a decisive victory over a non-minor character.

 

I can't comment on the fatigue because I never cooked in a similar situation. Let's just accept the author needed an excuse to have #1 and #2 not clear the field right now and that's about the most plausible excuse you can come up with.

for sure, I didn't really recall the whole Eizen thing (I think because it wasn't even in English), but now that you mention it I do remember that.  The Koga booth I don't recall fully what happened, but I guess it was just 1 day win.  To be fair it was also 2(Souma/Migumi) vs 1000000(Chinese Research Society).

 

I think the problem is that Souma is fighting the strongest too soon, and that's upsettting everyone with comments like "Superficial win" which I agree with for sure.

 

 

It sucks that Megishima had to lose off the bat though.  Also, didn't Megishima fight in the first battle too?  There were no comments about him having fatigue either, and maybe that is something that contributed to his loss (will have to check again to see who the first round was with).

 

Souma has beaten major characters, but not those who are the "Elites."  He's one of the best in his class for sure, but it's silly to have him beating the best of the best right now.
 

It's a bad excuse though, there could have been many other choices such as (chefs cannot fight in consecutive battles) or something along those lines... But fatigue/  Yeah it's typical Shounen, as mentioned before, but still silly imo.

 

 

 

 However... we are talking about a manga where eating food causes extreme orgasms, and the level of orgasm is directly proportionate to how much clothing has fallen off the eater, so I guess a little something like "fatigue" isn't really a big deal in the grand scheme of things.

He defeated Koga's booth at the festival, and beat Eizen as well. We can only have our MC fighting the top guys if there is some sort of disadvantage.

 

The thing that really bothers me about this bullshit "fatigue" is that our #1 Elite was cooking 9 course meals for multiple days at the festival, but somehow a single dish exhausts him to the point of no return...

 

It's getting a bit silly now in this manga... sadly... I'm not sure what the whole point of this vs' arc in this school is gong to be.

#8 was defeated by #1, and #3 was defeated by #2, who is probably #1 in reality.

I'm not sure who got expelled or not, since half of the chapters haven't been translated into English...

He defeated Koga's booth on one singular day and still got his ass kicked over-all. Eizan wasn't even remotely serious and just prepared a dish covering the bare minimum because he had bought the judges.

Those "victories" are as superficial as any win Souma pulled off. Ironic, considering he was lecturing Mimasaka about getting a superficial victory over Aldini.

 

I never disputed #8 and #3 losing. I said that they were, outside of Isshiki, their only real chance of winning against the #1 and 2.

As outlined before, nobody of the remaining chefs is even at Souma's level, who himself has yet to win a decisive victory over a non-minor character.

 

I can't comment on the fatigue because I never cooked in a similar situation. Let's just accept the author needed an excuse to have #1 and #2 not clear the field right now and that's about the most plausible excuse you can come up with.

this is bullshit about the physical tiring xD

 

I'm not really a cook, but I do have experience with cooking.

The cooking itself isn't what's tiring, it's coming up with a recipe that is.

 

Trust me, if you only have to cook for yourself, you can either half-ass the recipe or cook the same dish every day (until you get tired of it). There's nothing exhausting about this.

On the other hand, when you cook for others, especially people who are critical and who expect a different dish twice a day, the fatigue can easily pile up after a few days. Remember how Souma's father burnt-out after a while and needed to open a diner just to recover? That's something I can easily relate to.

 

Keep in mind that the festival was a foreseeable event for which Tsukasa had plenty of time to prepare. On the other hand, you cannot predict the theme of the next matches, so there's a limit to how much you can prepare. Also keep in mind that Tsukasa had to cook against a former Elite, so he couldn't half-ass his own dish.

The only bullshit thing about the fatigue in this manga, is that it's depicted as some sort of physical fatigue, when in fact it's purely mental in nature.

Na man it takes 10 seconds for a chef to think up a recipe after cooking thousands of different dishes, and if that tires them, they need mental training. 

Just take a look at page 6 and 7 https://bato.to/reader#71829a799111bc98_6 Kuga instantly thinks of a recipe, and starts going in at full power (where's his exhaustion?).

Even the brains guy mentions that they should be taking "as little time as they can to think up a recipe...."


After those 10 seconds they are doing exactly the same thing they would be doing in any other battle, cooking.  Tsukasa cooked a 9 course meal for multiple people, for multiple days, that is definitely tiresome, because like Shinomiya's French Restaurant, you have to make sure each dish is served precisely on time, at the precise temperature. 


Cooking things to precise temps, making sure each ingredient in only cooked for x amount of time, and making sure everything is perfectly aligned is what causes pressure, in addition to the time limit imposed on them.

I don't recall what happened to Souma's dad, as I missed some chapters, but being burnt out from cooking all the time, vs thinking up a recipe is 2 COMPLETELY different things.  Cooking all the time, vs coooking 1 meal is also different.






So...  People can claim what they want, but it's definitely a bs excuse to use "Mental Fatigue" in this situation, especially since the Elite 10, especially #1, has faced all sorts of high end opponents, doing exactly what he's doing now.

Can fatigue happen?  Yes..... Can it happen after 1 battle...   Some fatigue, yes, but these are the top elites, of the top school in the world, which means they are the best chefs in the world.  To show something like Rindou falling on the fall, being as powerful as she is, is a bit ridiculous...


Mental fatigue can hit you physically too, but it's too extreme for what they were doing.  Also wtf is up with Tsukasa sitting on a coach pondering....  That's his way of getting rid of fatigue?

Cooking can also cause physical fatigue, since you are doing a lot of work, but again, these are professional chefs, doing what they always do, not some first time chef looking to try out a recipe.


But this is a Shounen Manga, and usually odd things happen(miraculously surviving death, etc).

this is bullshit about the physical tiring xD

The thing that really bothers me about this bullshit "fatigue" is that our #1 Elite was cooking 9 course meals for multiple days at the festival, but somehow a single dish exhausts him to the point of no return...

 

I'm not really a cook, but I do have experience with cooking.

The cooking itself isn't what's tiring, it's coming up with a recipe that is.

 

Trust me, if you only have to cook for yourself, you can either half-ass the recipe or cook the same dish every day (until you get tired of it). There's nothing exhausting about this.

On the other hand, when you cook for others, especially people who are critical and who expect a different dish twice a day, the fatigue can easily pile up after a few days. Remember how Souma's father burnt-out after a while and needed to open a diner just to recover? That's something I can easily relate to.

 

Keep in mind that the festival was a foreseeable event for which Tsukasa had plenty of time to prepare. On the other hand, you cannot predict the theme of the next matches, so there's a limit to how much you can prepare. Also keep in mind that Tsukasa had to cook against a former Elite, so he couldn't half-ass his own dish.

The only bullshit thing about the fatigue in this manga, is that it's depicted as some sort of physical fatigue, when in fact it's purely mental in nature.

I can only agree to Isshiki being a wild card. Souma hasn't beaten a snigle tougher opponent thus far by his own merit but because his opponents weren't at 100%.

Look now. Souma's opponent is again set-up to be in a fatigued/not 100% state, just so Souma can swipe a superficial win.

Erina being #10 would mean more, if #8 and #3 weren't soundly defeated.

Also any of the already expelled chefs can't join the battle, can they? That's why they had to look for members so they have enough. It's quite the dilemma.

He defeated Koga's booth at the festival, and beat Eizen as well. We can only have our MC fighting the top guys if there is some sort of disadvantage.


The thing that really bothers me about this bullshit "fatigue" is that our #1 Elite was cooking 9 course meals for multiple days at the festival, but somehow a single dish exhausts him to the point of no return...

 

It's getting a bit silly now in this manga... sadly... I'm not sure what the whole point of this vs' arc in this school is gong to be.

#8 was defeated by #1, and #3 was defeated by #2, who is probably #1 in reality.

I'm not sure who got expelled or not, since half of the chapters haven't been translated into English...

"A scoundrel  hailing from a neighborhood diner who's simply incompatible with tootsuki Academy."

I missed a bunch of untranslated chapters, but doesn't Everyone know who Souma's dad is by now?

It's funny how everyone trash talks the "Food Establishment" of the  best chef in the world, and the best chef to ever come out of Tootsuki.

 

 

Well, we have Erina who was #10, we have Souma who's a beast, and we have Isshiki, who's abilities are hidden, and who we haven't seen go seriously yet.  The Wildcard.

 

we also have a bunch of others who can do damage as well, such as Alice and co.  Migumi is also someone who is underestimated, but in the end, she will definitely become one of the best chefs in the world.

Isshiki reminds me of the dude from Prince of Tennis 2, who was the head of the 5th court, but we find out he was really the #5 best in the entire camp, who was just the "gate-keeper" to make sure that no weaklings made it into the lower courts.

I can only agree to Isshiki being a wild card. Souma hasn't beaten a snigle tougher opponent thus far by his own merit but because his opponents weren't at 100%.

Look now. Souma's opponent is again set-up to be in a fatigued/not 100% state, just so Souma can swipe a superficial win.

Erina being #10 would mean more, if #8 and #3 weren't soundly defeated.

Also any of the already expelled chefs can't join the battle, can they? That's why they had to look for members so they have enough. It's quite the dilemma.

"A scoundrel  hailing from a neighborhood diner who's simply incompatible with tootsuki Academy."

I missed a bunch of untranslated chapters, but doesn't Everyone know who Souma's dad is by now?

It's funny how everyone trash talks the "Food Establishment" of the  best chef in the world, and the best chef to ever come out of Tootsuki.

 

So...basically the only one left who has any chance at all to beat those 3 is Isshiki.

 

No disrespect to the rest but they're not on the level of the Elite 10 yet.

Sure, Souma beat Nene but that was mostly due to her not being at her best, not him being better. How's the author gonna get outta this?

 

It would be interesting making Isshiki the strongest chef, seeing as he was the first person Souma challenged to a Shokugeki. Makes things come full circle.

 

Well, we have Erina who was #10, we have Souma who's a beast, and we have Isshiki, who's abilities are hidden, and who we haven't seen go seriously yet.  The Wildcard.

 

we also have a bunch of others who can do damage as well, such as Alice and co.  Migumi is also someone who is underestimated, but in the end, she will definitely become one of the best chefs in the world.

Isshiki reminds me of the dude from Prince of Tennis 2, who was the head of the 5th court, but we find out he was really the #5 best in the entire camp, who was just the "gate-keeper" to make sure that no weaklings made it into the lower courts.

So...basically the only one left who has any chance at all to beat those 3 is Isshiki.

 

No disrespect to the rest but they're not on the level of the Elite 10 yet.

Sure, Souma beat Nene but that was mostly due to her not being at her best, not him being better. How's the author gonna get outta this?

 

It would be interesting making Isshiki the strongest chef, seeing as he was the first person Souma challenged to a Shokugeki. Makes things come full circle.

Yeah, pretty much. No manga (or NOVEL whatsoever) has ever been successful putting the climax at the beginning, unless it's a film tactic like a retelling of the past to the present after showing the present before the past is introduced.

 

I disagree.  There are many situations that flow from stories.  Mostly we see  a lot of back and forth when fighting, for example MC will be beating enemy, enemy powers up, woops MC, and then MC unleashes new power to win.  We see this a lot 

 

Volume 26
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I'm pretty sure we are all thinking the same thing....

 

What I would give to be that frog right about now....

 

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Rindou is definitely one of the best girls in manga, for sure, imo.

Volume 26
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So doesn't this hold up the idea that whomever presents their dish or has it tasted first looses? Please correct me if I'm mistaken and i forgot a chapter when someone went first and won.

I'd have to check and see if that's true (I vaguely remember it not being true, but you might be right), but I do know that in my favorite cooking manga Iron Wok Jan (Sorry Shokugeki no Soma), there are times the protagonist goes first and still wins.  Once he even does a nice refreshing finishing course that makes the judges eat it all and go 'mmm that was good, well I'm done eating' and then be sad they had to judge OTHER people afterwards 'I'm full and that was just too satisfying, do I have to really try their food?'.  xD

 

... but that's one of the reasons I prefer Jan as a protagonist.  He's a jerk and an antihero chef, and actually uses tactics to undermine other people's dishes.  He's even used the whole drink orange-juice then-brush-teeth style ingredient incompatibility to make another chef's dish taste bad.

Ok that makes some sense, I concede. My point wasn't that cooking wasn't tiring though, but that it made them more tired because of their opponent. I mean sure they need to put more effort, but for instance, it was strange for the 1st Seat to suddenly be more sapped more energy because "his challenger was better than expected" when he was probably just continuing his recipe from what he planned in the beginning. 

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read again ch 228, it's "psychological pressure" which planned by Erika ..

by continuesly giving pressure to elite 10, the opponent will get stressed even with their work ...

she know they will lose, but better give ABSOLUTE PRESSURE to their opponent at competition time so they can't compete at the next day ... (or at least drastically reducing their performance for tomorrow)

 

so even if the 1st seat have confidence with his cooking, he will still get pressured, not to mention that tag support for soy sauce ... Remember : ! COOKING ESPECIALLY HI-QUALITY IN BIG TOURNAMENT REQUIRE HIGH CONCENTRATION ! and what MC team do is basically nagging and giving pressure to the opponent (by giving strong impression they will absolutely win against 10 seat) ...

 

I also have certain recipes for that soy sauce, add some spice (various garlic, onion and pepper) and : by frying it (it get oily tough), heat it (like in manga) or just put in chiller ...

the benefit, the soy sauce will have LESS WATER which make the flavor more intense (like the one shown in manga) ...

Ok that makes some sense, I concede. My point wasn't that cooking wasn't tiring though, but that it made them more tired because of their opponent. I mean sure they need to put more effort, but for instance, it was strange for the 1st Seat to suddenly be more sapped more energy because "his challenger was better than expected" when he was probably just continuing his recipe from what he planned in the beginning. 

You understand!

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because it's in my family daily works ...

! AND FOOD NEED TO BE IN HIGH QUALITY FOR EACH PLATE BEING SERVED !

(you seriously don't want to pay or visit Restaurant which dish low quality food, right ?)

any Restaurant which serve bad quality food, most likely goes bankrupt ...

 

should I add, cooking with wok and intense fire (which usually fried cooking) will sap your strength more since it will heat your body too (no need real dexterity in here, since you will use more strength, nevertheless it will need a lot of strength and stamina) ... try to make good quality fried rice with strong fire and you will know what I mean ...

 

in this losing tournament, they don't use heat a lot, but they need concentration A LOT (and need to keep it at max) ... you know brain govern body right ? if it's hard to think, just image them straining their muscle and brain all the time in that competition ...

 

also I probably need to mention this, but if you do the routine daily (for cooking the same recipes again and again) and quite often, then you won't get as stressed as that (someone who cook a lot of fried rice daily, eventually won't use as much as stamina as beginner, not to mention start resisting in heat) ... also someone who make A LOT sushi everyday, will have less stress / strain compared beginner ... as they get teacher, their quality in work can be increased too, also they are get more faster and efficient in their work ...

^^ based Real Life experience ^^

 

BUT in that competition you need original recipes and you also need highest quality and skill you can muster ... that will definitely sap a lot of stamina even for expert ...

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probably the stress and pressure is too intense for them ...
if you have enter serious competition / tournament, even it's for simple thing like chess or such, the fatigue is intense if you do it VERY SERIOUSLY ...
even more if it's cooking ... do you think cooking is easy and don't consume much stamina ?
that's seriously wrong, chef and someone who able to cook skillfully usually have strong and dexterious arms, as they need to cook and stir a lot in cooking (depend on how you do it, focusing for dexterity also give strain at brain and muscle too) ...
 
my family have big Restaurant and even force me to enter cooking competition (yeah food craze family, and that's why I can predict some cooking in this manga too) ...
I tried to win at cooking competition, but still get ranked 7th / 10 from 10 ...
(I'm not skilled, but what I'm say about serious competition exhaust stamina, and how chef need to be strong and have good dexterity is REAL) ... any other reader who able to cook or work as chef or already enter competition can vouch my words ...


You understand!

Sounds stupid, why would you be more physically echausted by what the other opponent is cooking? Maybe because you exert yourself more to cook up something better, but that I still don't think that makes much sense.

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probably the stress and pressure is too intense for them ...

if you have enter serious competition / tournament, even it's for simple thing like chess or such, the fatigue is intense if you do it VERY SERIOUSLY ...

even more if it's cooking ... do you think cooking is easy and don't consume much stamina ?

that's seriously wrong, chef and someone who able to cook skillfully usually have strong and dexterious arms, as they need to cook and stir a lot in cooking (depend on how you do it, focusing for dexterity also give strain at brain and muscle too) ...

 

my family have big Restaurant and even force me to enter cooking competition (yeah food craze family, and that's why I can predict some cooking in this manga too) ...

I tried to win at cooking competition, but still get ranked 7th / 10 from 10 ...

(I'm not skilled, but what I'm say about serious competition exhaust stamina, and how chef need to be strong and have good dexterity is REAL) ... any other reader who able to cook or work as chef or already enter competition can vouch my words ...

Sounds stupid, why would you be more physically echausted by what the other opponent is cooking? Maybe because you exert yourself more to cook up something better, but that I still don't think that makes much sense.

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